From dev-return-1972-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@openwhisk.apache.org Wed Jun 6 17:52:46 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 23C5E180674 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 17:52:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 5250 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jun 2018 15:52:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openwhisk.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openwhisk.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openwhisk.apache.org Received: (qmail 4914 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jun 2018 15:52:44 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:52:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id DEFFEC0100 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 15:52:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.139 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.139 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zonmrUCUsQOc for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 15:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ua0-f179.google.com (mail-ua0-f179.google.com [209.85.217.179]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 00E5D5F1F3 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 15:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ua0-f179.google.com with SMTP id m21-v6so4369044uan.0 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 08:52:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=+SxCn06nyBT4d2ALyL5dQyJPukAFBVK7ic1yIX5piss=; b=isW2uX7cDUkicqSLSxqvnE2DzKtHcsF6Ml2k9NaapfGt4J44Jvvv3rnhFu4Z+RnX9K a514JmEms4mEt1/nrltV99ii+W+pDtZBE7F41NX4MYTAXsy0Ml+W/onXDl7PI1suzoHT FHShdfD5dm2dYGLyIMmtisXRHsI5RiPLebW7yqECpa1brqRTOUEtP2gFr4QHcLfAH2FY jOK9bbH8NATwpNI7RqHzJ2uCCKXDFZg8NfiyJ77NFfvmz/peY4HqpLfo3bV5PlwUdz9J z6NA6pcpar87fQBFh+9/Nm2DXUy+gyz3I2pc+2ZDcGxB68SGtengHvapPICXE2+THMQq kI9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=+SxCn06nyBT4d2ALyL5dQyJPukAFBVK7ic1yIX5piss=; b=h6iIS2GBB2wlRzxbQXca+GRdKSkYJrDPUC45X+oY4GUnM5xpUBcnyLcnQ9N0gpG0f6 EozHgj64lZB/ijKYhsOmftYAfw6rAcy6Ri3xJ7+1oAb1qs/eBMFq3iDw4Utc+jAwnOQu +2nasM5q3oW+tGO5IOs//Xay2Y7Td1g6dvMhpup414EREycbFXAqbRUFKfB1ZmHiqStP WNlziks6h5ucjbbq3tCqSY1IvLIox2aJ8BYzkEBo49AEu9CZcVBDGPF9m0X7txDJh/AI rqifbY2NeB379JHsq7GqdltGg1YlKessoHHXAnOLW62PV4rnMYzxfJbfi2wHxwmsGV0G OraA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3VUNojBb+owCD7c0VnhCkgwXwfvsH6gbpwPm7b0v910HCvY0Fx dKpXGh9pB+lnnJQOoJ779Ua2uC/+lnUCVY5YKq8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIARr7D8u0g3IcMZP/sB7V02NINXn0jDJRqN+UuDBTvIW1iwG89S7aZMByGJTLCYG1S9cFDh8dmxqFvkySF4N8= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:14af:: with SMTP id d44-v6mr2405312uae.160.1528300360269; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 08:52:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Carlos Santana Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 11:52:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Please review our project's draft Apache Incubator June board report To: dev@openwhisk.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000015851e056dfb28df" --00000000000015851e056dfb28df Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Bertrand, This insight you shared is useful. >That diversity is generally defined by having PMC members affiliated with at least 3 different entities, which do not have to be companies - people from two companies along with a few independents is fine. This is good news then we are in good shape with the current entities and a few independent developers we have in place today, so this issue I consider resolved as minimum bar for graduation. Yes I agree and we need to be better on async comm. on dev list. I saw your other thread and your good suggestions. -cs On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:20 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Carlos Santana > wrote: > > ...I think the company is referring to that to my understanding is that > the > > project to graduate should have at least 3 companies sponsoring the > > project... > > It's not exactly that. To graduate, a project must have "sufficient > diversity" so that it's not overly dependent on a single entity which > might lose interest and cause the project to stop. > > That diversity is generally defined by having PMC members affiliated > with at least 3 different entities, which do not have to be companies > - people from two companies along with a few independents is fine. > > What's most important is for all things to happen in the open, "if it > didn't happen on the dev list it didn't happen" so that anyone can > participate in decisions. My other thread about asynchronous > communications is related - it must be easy to collaborate with the > project even if one isn't working 100% on it. > > -Bertrand > --00000000000015851e056dfb28df--