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From Chetan Mehrotra <>
Subject Re: Implement wskadmin in scala
Date Mon, 04 Jun 2018 06:39:59 GMT
Following up on this thread ...

There is now work in progress PR #3722 [1] which implements the
proposed tooling in Scala. Currently it supports some of the `user`
commands like `create`, `delete` etc.

There are few open questions also like

1. What should be the name of cli. Currently its named as wskadmin-cli

2. Where should the code live. Currently its in core/admin

Please have a look and share feedback related to the approach taken
i.e. whether its fine to pursue this as done or there are some

Chetan Mehrotra

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Chetan Mehrotra
<> wrote:
>> (wskadmin) could become more heavy weight
> Yes thats a concern and Python dev is more light weight. I would still
> prefer Python for ad hoc tooling required for one off tasks. But
> anything which needs to be stable and supported properly for general
> use it would be better to go for proposed approach.
>> Are you considering the totality if wskadmin or a partitioning and only replacing
some of partitions?
> For now the focus is on DB specific task i.e. user,limits,db. For
> syslog I am not sure as I think its more dev tooling and can only work
> for local setup. Other command in wskadmin on the other admin can be
> used for production setups if required.
> Chetan Mehrotra
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:36 PM, Rodric Rabbah <> wrote:
>> My initial reaction is that it (wskadmin) could become more heavy weight (small changes
becomes longer edit, compile iterations) - case in point the wsk cli in Python vs Go... but
weighed against the benefits Chetan outlined with potential for a lot of shared code with
the backend cannot be discounted.
>> I’m not familiar with oak-run and will take a look to educate myself.
>> Are you considering the totality if wskadmin or a partitioning and only replacing
some of partitions? (I understood the former, just making sure.)
>> -r
>>> On Apr 26, 2018, at 2:05 AM, Chetan Mehrotra <>
>>> Hi Team,
>>> Currently for OpenWhisk admin operation we have tooling implemented in
>>> couple of python scripts like wskadmin, tools/db/* etc. These script
>>> currently talk directly to CouchDB to perform required actions.
>>> Sometime back I discussed the option to support other databases [1]
>>> and it was suggested to have wskadmin support various db backends.
>>> However looking into other scripts I found some of the tool/db would
>>> also be useful in context of other backends also.
>>> To simplify this aspect going forward it may be better to implement
>>> the important tooling in Scala itself as a separate sub module in core
>>> repo. This module would produce a 'fat runnable jar' which would be
>>> including all required dependency and can be used as a standalone cli
>>> tool.
>>> We used similar approach in Apache Jackrabbit Oak [2] where we produce
>>> this single jar which consolidates all the admin tooling. This has
>>> over the years became primary admin tooling for us.
>>> Such an approach would have following benefits
>>> 1. Implemented in Scala and thus able to leverage existing
>>> abstractions like ArtifactStore
>>> 2. For some of the bulk db operations it would be possible to leverage
>>> Akka Streams to implement simpler multi threaded flows.
>>> 3. Easy to implement tests for the tooling part
>>> 4. User management operations can be done via existing ArtifactStore
>>> feature set. So one implementation can work against multiple stores
>>> 5. No other runtime dependency i.e. specific Python version or Python
>>> module need to be deployed. Just have JDK 1.8 and use the jar in
>>> standalone manner. No need to even check out whole OpenWhisk repo
>>> Key requirement for  such a tooling would be to be compatible with
>>> existing CLI argument format.
>>> If such an approach makes sense I can work on PR to give it a try!
>>> Chetan Mehrotra
>>> [1]
>>> [2]

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