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From Nick Mitchell <>
Subject Re: ApacheCon 2016: t-shirt ideas?
Date Thu, 04 May 2017 18:46:43 GMT
maybe a bit of caution is needed in the use of "no-ops"? amongst the first
things i did with my serverless apps is.... get jenkins health checks going!

you may not have a server, but you have assets that can, and so will fail.

perhaps the implication of "no-ops" is that skill set needed for serverless
ops different than for conventional ops? yes, certainly, but, not as much
as i would have expected.

don't need DBA skills? that's just DBaas, not serverless (functions as

don't need Express skills? we have already seen, in a recent email/blog
post, that people want to pull all of that over into the serverless world.

don't need networking skills? ha! many of us have already spent plenty of
time with 502s --- and to no fault of openwhisk! rather, it's a fact of the
loosely coupled, highly firewalled/gateway'd world we live in.

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Eric Na <> wrote:

> or "Apps - Ops = Openwhisk" to refine it further?
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Rodric Rabbah <> wrote:
> > I like Michael's "Serverless - by Apache"
> > I'd refine Daniel's to "Apps without Ops" or "Apps with NoOps"
> >

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