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From "Matt Rutkowski (Confluence)" <no-re...@apache.org>
Subject [CONF] OpenWhisk > 2019-06-12 OW Tech Interchange - Meeting Notes
Date Wed, 12 Jun 2019 16:20:05 GMT
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border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0 0 0 24px; padding: 0; padding: 10px"> <p class="diff-context-placeholder"
style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">...</p> 
<ul class="diff-block-target" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span style="color: rgb(255,38,0);">Vincent</span>is
moderating today</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Last meeting was: on <span
style="color: rgb(255,38,0);">2019-05-19 (Justin hosted)</span> </p> </li>

<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Attendees: <span class="diff-html-added"
id="added-diff-0" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Matt, Vincent, Justin,
James, Justin, Priti, Tyson, Dave, Chetan</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Regrets: <span class="diff-html-removed"
id="removed-diff-0" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">None</span><span
class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-1" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Rodric</span>
</p> </li> 
</ul> <p class="diff-block-context" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">Find referenced
slides here:&nbsp;<a href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENWHISK/Presentations"
rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENWHISK/Presentations</a>
</p> <p class="diff-block-context" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">Introductions of
new attendees</p> 
<ul class="diff-block-target" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
id="added-diff-2" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">None</span>
</p> </li> 
</ul> <p class="diff-block-context" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">Agenda</p>

<ul class="diff-block-target diff-block-context" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Recurring Agenda
topics</span> </p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Updates on major
modules:<br> </span> </p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
id="added-diff-3" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">No update</span>
</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Scheduled Topic</span>s</p>

<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-added"
id="added-diff-4" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">AMQP providers</span></span><span
class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;"> (James)</span>
</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">New provider being worked on by James</span>
</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">James: presented earlier his&nbsp;“pluggable”
event provider which this is based on.</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">James: 90% code from common provider…
(showed this base code README)</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">James: couple weeks ago decided to
tackle AMQP</span> </p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">RabbiMQ, ActiveMQ, loads of other queue
providers use this protocol</span> </p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">James: plans to move onto Redis (via
pub-sub mechanism it supports), also new feature “streams” as kafka has (new in Redis
5)</span> </p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">hopes to have this completed in a few
weeks</span> </p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">James: these exercises have helped
identify bugs that he has fixed in the pluggable provider.</span> </p> </li>

<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">James: also added Helm charts for the
AMQP provider in the “deploy kube” repo.</span> </p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-changed" id="changed-diff-0" style="background-color:
#d6f0ff;">Adding Helm charts for deploying AMQP provider: </span><a href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-deploy-kube/pull/474"
class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"><span
class="diff-html-changed" style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-deploy-kube/pull/474</span></a>
</li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-1" style="font-size: 100%;
background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Pluggable event provider to
add more event sources</span> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
id="added-diff-5" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">working with Dave
Grove to get reviewed</span> </p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">James: still working on build/push
images to Docker(Hub) so we can reference it in testing.</span> </p> </li>

<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">If all goes well with this Helm chart
plans to add charts for other providers</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Vincent: should we convert old providers
to use the plug-in provider model?</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">James: may be a good idea to discuss
(some discussion earlier when pluggable discussed), but still needs more testing (used in
production) before replacing known providers used in production by users</span> </p>
</li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Fixed
Go and Ruby runtimes to conform to image tagging convention (Vincent):</span> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-changed" id="changed-diff-1" style="background-color:
#d6f0ff;">PRs for runtime go and ruby, changing the naming convention of tags:</span>

<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <a href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-runtime-ruby/pulls" class="external-link"
rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"><span class="diff-html-changed"
id="changed-diff-3" style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-runtime-ruby/pulls</span></a><span
class="diff-html-changed" style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">, Ruby 2.6 build breaks. Needs
help to fix.</span> </li> 
<li> <a href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-runtime-go/pull/93" class="external-link"
rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"><span class="diff-html-changed"
style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-runtime-go/pull/93</span></a>
</li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
id="added-diff-6" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Identified several
weeks ago; all language runtimes once these 2 PRs are merged should all use same convention.</span>
</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Vincent: Ruby 2.6 runtime PR is not
working… needs help&nbsp;</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">James: Justin is our local expert….</span>
</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Vincent: build started failing 2-3
days ago</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Justin: will try to help out tomorrow
or Friday after done presenting at a conference.</span> </p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li>Graduation: 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li>Trademark: domain name transfer. Touch base with legal team.</li> 
<li>Short header. Go thru all repos, changing from short to full headers.</li>

<li>Docker images: clarity added to describe. Issue with latest tag(nightly instead),
pull and push with new tag, like nightly; License header; description.</li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-7" style="font-size: 100%; background-color:
#ddfade;">Demo of NodeJS runtime "pulling" GitHub application source as part of Knative
build (Priti)</span> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-changed" id="changed-diff-4" style="background-color:
#d6f0ff;">Nodejs runtime with Knative: pre-process added, knative pulls repos, runtime
nodejs loads the dependencies</span> </li> 
<li>build into tekton pipeline</li> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-8" style="font-size: 100%; background-color:
#ddfade;">James: how does Knative build affect this work as I understand that there is
uncertainty on that project</span> </li> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Matt:
Knative build is trying to deprecate itself; unsure how to do that as there are no governance
processes/rules around this as Google has not set any up</span> </li> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Matt:
we expect the worst (i.e., they will delete the repo.) and have asked Priti if she might want
to see if this work can be migrated easily to Tekton (which was Knative Build v2.0 before
separating from Knative project)</span> </li> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Vincent:
should be easy; similar concepts they use "tasks", etc. but similar process flow</span>
</li> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Matt:
yes, Tekton would be a component OW would want to use as we seek to create more complex build
pipelines to build images for different roles like developer, tester, operations/production
with different (multiple source repos.) with different tooling/functionality "baked in" using
the same runtime base image and build process.</span> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Vincent
will end early and give 20 mins. back to everyone</span> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> <p class="diff-block-target diff-block-context" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">
<span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Confirm
moderator for next call</span> </p> 
<ul class="diff-block-target diff-block-context" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span style="color: rgb(255,38,0);"><span
class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">James&nbsp;</span></span><span
class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">has volunteered,
for the&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(255,38,0);"><span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">2019-06-26</span></span><span
class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">&nbsp;meeting</span>
</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">adjourn 10:40 AM US Central</span>
</p> </li> 
</ul> <p class="diff-context-placeholder" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">...</p>
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