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From "Rodric Rabbah (Confluence)" <no-re...@apache.org>
Subject [CONF] OpenWhisk > 2019-05-15 OW Tech Int - Meeting Notes
Date Mon, 20 May 2019 14:10:06 GMT
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Recurring Agenda topics</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>OpenWhisk PR review</span>&nbsp;(e.g., Rodric/Carlos//Tyson, etc.)</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/pull/4430" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/pull/4430</a>&nbsp;(Dominic)</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ad3d11ef0f20051fc164f0b63a747771bec5ba33188ae7145fb08f5a@%3Cdev.openwhisk.apache.org%3E" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">Upgrading Docker version to 18.06</a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Good summary by <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-0" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Rodric </span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-0" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Dominic </span>of Docker 1.12, 18.08 &gt;, 18.09 relative to runc <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-1" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">&nbsp;evolution</span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-1" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">evolution</span>.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Sven notes Dom’s <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-2" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">exceelent </span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-2" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">excellent </span>work inc. adding perf. test "thanks a lot for providing this PR - very thorough work. Particularly, the performance tests are helpful for deciding whether the update to a newer Docker version is a feasible."</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric, Sven approved changes, ready to merge.</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Scheduled Topic</span>s</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>ActionLoop Runtime / Runtime SDK</span> (Michele Sciabarra)</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">[Michele] "<span>did a lot of Work recently on actionloop runtimes,&nbsp; and I would like to share how now it is a sort of "runime sdk" and how it works."</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Shares presenation</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">“The state of the LOOP <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-3" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">) </span>in Action<span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-4" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">)</span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-3" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">"</span> </p> </li> 
<li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Tells evolution/story of how it came about</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Stared with “Go” lang. support request from community… lead to the idea of a generic proxy that can be used by any language. &nbsp;</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Impl. Go Support - Go was a compiled language so was a challenge...</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">prox that complies with OW runtime /init, /run contract</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">defined &nbsp;extensible, "in-container" action compilation</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Precompilation support - allows speed up of startup timss of actions (precompiled as binaries)</p> </li> 
<li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">even now works with Java</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">“It worked”, ran with that initial success to support other langs.</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">e.g., Ruby, PHP, crystal, many others</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">It is fast - shows chart of perf. comparisons (also repviously discussed during proposal/development phases on these calls) based upon 1000 runs</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">ActionLoop, created to help others, now part of ”devtools” repo.</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Shows sample of launcher script from SDK (in python) showing easy to recode to other languages</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">What is Next? - ActionLoop for Knative work starts, using example from NodeJS (met with Priti/Matt to discuss helping each other)</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Transparent compilation</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Web Socket protocol</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Chetan asked about perf. test work. &nbsp;Michele indicates use of stdin/stdout/fd3, speed of Go… rest dependent on language runtime support/load times</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Runtime SDK tutorial docs reviewed/merged/updated in main OW repo.</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Thanks Michele.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">"Adding Action Language Runtimes"</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/blob/master/docs/actions-new.md" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/blob/master/docs/actions-new.md</a>"</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Website updated for OW Runtime release 1.13.0</span> </p> </li> 
<li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://openwhisk.apache.org/downloads.html#component-releases" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://openwhisk.apache.org/downloads.html#component-releases</a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Reviewed merged several smaller community PRs./bug fixes</p> </li> 
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</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Other topics:</span> </p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>“Dev” list Thread on</span> <a href="https://cri-o.io/" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">CRI-O</a> <span>/&nbsp;</span><a href="https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/242a97307b34076d5d8f5bbeb154fa4d97c9ef1d/docs/devel/container-runtime-interface.md" style="text-decoration: underline;; color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none" class="external-link" rel="nofollow">Container Runtime Interface</a> (CRI)</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">OW on OpenShift v4 … attempts by Henry Zektser</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Thanks Sven and Dave for engaging</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Medium Blogs:</span> </p> </li> 
<li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">James Thomas</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://medium.com/openwhisk/accessing-long-running-apache-openwhisk-actions-results-4dec46319068" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">Accessing Long-Running Apache OpenWhisk Actions Results</a> </p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Priti Desai</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">authored several&nbsp;“how to”&nbsp;blogs from Knative use case supported by the NodeJS runtime. These are being linked as a “series"</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://medium.com/openwhisk/openwhisk-actions-on-knative-actions-with-json-in-json-out-interface-25c20d71303d?source=collection_home---5------5---------------------" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">OpenWhisk Actions on Knative — Actions with JSON in / JSON out Interface</a> </p> </li> 
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<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://medium.com/openwhisk/openwhisk-actions-on-knative-call-external-apis-8b7465455efa?source=collection_home---5------4---------------------" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">OpenWhisk Actions on Knative - Call External APIs</a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://medium.com/openwhisk/openwhisk-actions-on-knative-asynchronous-actions-9cacea4b2dca" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">OpenWhisk Actions on Knative — Asynchronous Actions</a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://medium.com/openwhisk/openwhisk-actions-on-knative-web-actions-ac8fb3a309f0" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">OpenWhisk Actions on Knative — Web Actions</a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://medium.com/openwhisk/openwhisk-actions-on-knative-actions-with-access-to-http-body-parameters-72bc9460d2c2" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">OpenWhisk Actions on Knative — Actions with Access to HTTP Body Parameters</a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Note:&nbsp;Finishing up an IBM Developer blog on how to install NodeJS on IBM Kubernetes Service (IKS) based upon the first article in the series</p> </li> 
<li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://medium.com/openwhisk/how-to-run-openwhisk-actions-on-knative-95fcaf655a9e" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://medium.com/openwhisk/how-to-run-openwhisk-actions-on-knative-95fcaf655a9e</a> </p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">David Breitgand,&nbsp;<a href="https://medium.com/@kravchenko.pavel" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">Pavel Kravchenco</a>, IBM Haifa Research</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Draft under review</span>: “<a href="https://medium.com/@david.breitgand/e346e555b56a" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">Apache OpenWhisk meets Raspberry Pi</a>” using the “Lean OpenWhisk” work that was accepted by the community.</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Runtimes updates</span>:</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Matt: Reviewing missing 1.13.0 tags on runtimes 4/25 released GitHub and also missing in DockerHub</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Working with Vincent and Rodric to correct and update docs. where needed in the release repo.</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Matt: Beginning work in earnest to enable ActionLoop based runtimes for Knative using same methodology as NodeJS. &nbsp;</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Discussed with Michele/Priti, Michele will begin work as able in project github and we will notify in dev list on feature branch.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">James: NodeJS v12, was a heisen-bug, now appears fixed, “good to go”, should do a release</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">perhaps include Kube, core, and NodeJS?</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Dave: yes, just release NodeJS, 1.14… have not yet released Kube yet (need API GW and Catalog, for example), then release main system (core OW) then Kube</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Carlos: proposes, to decide if we remove NodeJS6 and NodeJS default before we “cut” release</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">James: def. remove 6 (out of LTS), perhaps too soon to make 12 default</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Dave:&nbsp;NodeJS <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-4" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">10 </span>is already default, went in last week</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">James: agree (remove 6, leave 10 default)</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Release/Graduation:</span>&nbsp;(e.g., Matt/Vincent)</p> </li> 
<li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Matt: was CCed on 7 emails (Monday 5/13) from ASF’s VP Brand email ID (i.e., Mark Thomas) indicating he signed TM/legal handoff docs.</p> </li> 
<li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">This set included: Canada, France, Mexico, and WIPO countries</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">See "Member states of the World Intellectual Property Organization",&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Organization" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Organization</a> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Matt needs to verify if countries may have been missed as well.</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">IBM IP/Legal has not received scan copies of <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-5" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">hte </span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-5" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">the </span>actual docs. awaiting these… if received, can say that it appears the last known legal hurdle(s) to “graduate” project has been cleared.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Carlos: create Thread for <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-6" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">mat. </span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-6" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">maturity </span>model questions for comm. to respond on</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Dave: Bertrand: need to address (with paragraph perhaps, on website) how we use Slack, etc.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span style="color: black;">Flatten subdirs or create 1.13 archive in Apache distribution archive</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-release/issues/277" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-release/issues/277</a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span style="color: black;">Flatten discussion:</span> <a href="https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8972e387e3e13ca97fee1c90cafae68b129753d303baaea4a0f805aa@%3Cdev.openwhisk.apache.org%3E" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8972e387e3e13ca97fee1c90cafae68b129753d303baaea4a0f805aa@%3Cdev.openwhisk.apache.org%3E</a> </p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Kubernetes/Knative:</span>&nbsp; (e.g., Dave G., Dragos)</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Dragos updated Wiki proposal with latest thoughts on use of new open source tech.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Matt notes use of Envoy being explored by Dragos, had offline discussion on</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">applicability of Kube Operators, that is “Apache OpenWhisk Operators” work under (<a href="https://github.com/IBM/openwhisk-operator" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://github.com/IBM/openwhisk-operator</a>),&nbsp;</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">and KEDA “Announcing KEDA: bringing event-driven containers and functions to Kubernetes"</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">(<a href="https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/06/microsoft-partners-with-red-hat-to-launch-event-driven-kubernetes-autoscaling/" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/06/microsoft-partners-with-red-hat-to-launch-event-driven-kubernetes-autoscaling/</a>)</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">direct use of fluentd for all log/activation collection</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Tooling</span>/<span>Utilities</span> (Carlos (CLI), Priti/Matt (wskdeploy)</p> </li> 
<li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Catalog</span>/<span>Packages</span>/<span>Samples</span> (e.g., Carlos/Matt/Priti)</p> </li> 
<li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li> 
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