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From "Rodric Rabbah (Confluence)" <no-re...@apache.org>
Subject [CONF] OpenWhisk > 2019-04-17 OW Tech Int. Meeting Notes
Date Wed, 17 Apr 2019 18:00:05 GMT
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border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0 0 0 24px; padding: 0; padding: 10px"> <p class="diff-block-context"
style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Notes:</span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span style="color: rgb(255,38,0);"><span
class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-0" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7;
text-decoration: line-through;">Tyson&nbsp;</span></span><span style="color:
rgb(255,38,0);"><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-0" style="font-size: 100%;
background-color: #ddfade;">Rodric </span></span>is moderating today</p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Last meeting was: on <span
style="color: rgb(255,38,0);">2019-04-03</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Attendees: Rodric, Matt, Justin,
James, Tyson, Dragos, Nick</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Regrets: None</p> </li>

</ul> <p class="diff-context-placeholder" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">...</p>

<ul class="diff-block-target" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Recurring Agenda
topics</span> </p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Main/core OpenWhisk</span>&nbsp;(e.g.,
Rodric/Carlos//Tyson, etc.)</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-removed"
id="removed-diff-1" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Rodric
open comments are next week PRs dropping for Digital Ocean “droplets"</span> </p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>PR Review: &nbsp;(Rodric)</span>
</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>NodeJS for Knative</strong>
(119) (NodeJS): Support</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-runtime-nodejs/pull/119"
class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-runtime-nodejs/pull/119</a>
</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric: discussion on dev list;
Priti posted inviting comment/review of PR</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Matt: 2 other PRs (tests, docs)
to follow once comments addressed/review completed.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Matt: addressing last few comments
today.</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>Docker Upgrade
(</strong>4430) (OW Core): Docker 18 upgrade: Dominic leading this PR</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/pull/4430"
class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/pull/4430</a>
</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">OW currently “pinned” to
old version of Docker (v12)</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric: Sven from IBM commenting,
Markus and Rodric discussing mitigating factors</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric: Discussion will continue
on dev. list and merge be done with adequate announcements to allow downstream providers (users)
to test/adapt.</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>Invoker for Lambda</strong>:
AWS lambda: Chetan at Adobe OW actions with AWS lambda</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a style="text-decoration:
underline;; color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none" href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/pull/4412"
class="external-link" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/pull/4412</a>
</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">New invoker impl. proposed “run
OW actions on Lambda"</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Matt: Indicates Knative build
can build runtimes for Lambda… do not need to change Invokers.</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>New LB Proposal</strong>:
Dominic proposal on Wiki/dev list posted, redo. LoadBalancer, working with Dragos</p>

<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENWHISK/New+architecture+proposal"
rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENWHISK/New+architecture+proposal</a>
</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric: knows Naver (Dom) using
this on their own internal depl. with good success.</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Scheduled Topic</span>s</p>

<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">None</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>Other topics:</strong>
</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>Tech. Int. call
future:</strong> </p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric: evaluate value/length
of interchange calls</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>User Doc updates:</strong>
</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">James: plans to update docs.
with some “commonly asked questions” (provide answers)</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">May end up re-writing more than
planned… some slightly odd CLI refs. to SDK, etc. &nbsp;these are old artifacts that
we may look to remove from the CLI...</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No one uses, confuses people,
Docker actions would be done via the repo. will post to dev list and get opinions...</p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric: SDK access is confusing….
Mobile SDK is likely “rotten” as no one uses it likely… with other Docker build options
simplification is better.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Justin: appreciates the effort
to clean up docs.</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>Node6 Runtime
(deprecation):</strong> </p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">James: version 6 out of LTS…
should we deprecate officially?&nbsp;</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric: Operator perspective
you control runtimes… but had some breaks with Kafka provider when we tried before.</p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric: let’s bump default
runtime for Node; start by post to dev. list</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">James: default to Node 10 is
expected from developers today...</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric: should verify Python
default version.</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Runtimes updates</span>:</p>

<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>See above on releases</span>
</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Release/Graduation:</span>&nbsp;(e.g.,
Matt/Vincent)</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li>

</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Kubernetes/Knative:</span>&nbsp;
(e.g., Dave G., Dragos)</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Please see WIki proposal from
Dragos suggesting how we preserve OW models/control/data/mgmt. planes on Kube.</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENWHISK/OpenWhisk+on+Kubernetes"
rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENWHISK/OpenWhisk+on+Kubernetes</a>
</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">and related proposals from past:</p>

<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENWHISK/%5BWIP%5D+OpenWhisk+on+Knative"
rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENWHISK/%5BWIP%5D+OpenWhisk+on+Knative</a>
</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENWHISK/OpenWhisk+future+architecture"
rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENWHISK/OpenWhisk+future+architecture</a>
</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Tooling</span>/<span>Utilities</span>
(Carlos (CLI), Priti/Matt (wskdeploy))</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li>

</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Catalog</span>/<span>Packages</span>/<span>Samples</span>
(e.g., Carlos/Matt/Priti)</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li>

</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> <p class="diff-context-placeholder" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">...</p>
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