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From "Matt Rutkowski (Confluence)" <no-re...@apache.org>
Subject [CONF] OpenWhisk > 2019-02-20 OW Tech Interchange - Meeting Notes
Date Thu, 21 Feb 2019 14:50:01 GMT
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border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0 0 0 24px; padding: 0; padding: 10px"> <p class="diff-context-placeholder"
style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">...</p> 
<ul class="diff-block-target" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Recurring Agenda
topics</span> </p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Main/core OpenWhisk</span>&nbsp;(e.g.,
Rodric/Carlos//Tyson, etc.)</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>PR Review: &nbsp;</span>
</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">James: 3 PRs of interest (my
PoV):</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>#4226: change
the default action context to omit the api key</strong> </p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">API key is always avail. in
runtime… well-used in platforms, BUT can use API key to do “bad things” on the platform.</p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Security-by-default would turn
this off</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">propose use annotation to preserve...</p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Might cause providers who assume
this to break, until they use new flag (as default)</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>#4216: propose
lean openwhisk</strong> </p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">remove kafka and other containers
not always needed...</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">merged 11 days ago</p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Run more easily locally</p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric: suggests using this
profile for Docker Compose (easy up) for developers</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>#4129 Adding
YARNContainerFactory</strong> </p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Allow OW to run on Apache Hadoop
clusters</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Rodric, doing work with author
to firm up PR</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Carlos: &nbsp;thinks that
this would be a great PR to blog about and showcase OW “pluggability”</p> </li>

<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Also, notes the Docker and Mesos
factories as well!</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Benefits, Pros, Cons… could
be discussed</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">James: guide to create other
factories like FireCracker perhaps?</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Runtimes updates</span>:</p>
</li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li>

</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Release/Graduation:</span>&nbsp;(e.g.,
Matt/Vincent)</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Matt: IBM handoff of logos/trademarks/domain
names proceeding/ IBM legal in contact with ASF legal with draft documents.&nbsp;</p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Target of Feb 20th board meeting
was not made due to late text/wording changes requested by ASF legal</p> </li>

<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Next target board mtg. is sched.
for 20 March 2019.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Vincent: working on staging
“as best possible” from China (only getting at most 1-2 days work per week while remote);
hopefully back in US in a couple of weeks to resume at full speed.</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Kubernetes</span>:
&nbsp;(e.g., Dave G.)</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li>

</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Mesos/Compose/OpenShift:</span>
(e.g., Dragos/Tyson)</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li>

</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>API</span>
<span>Gateway</span> (Matt Hamann/Dragos)</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li>

</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Tooling</span>/<span>Utilities</span>
(Carlos (CLI), Priti/Matt (wskdeploy))</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li>

</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Catalog</span>/<span>Packages</span>/<span>Samples</span>
(e.g., Carlos/Matt/Priti)</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li>

</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Scheduled Topic</span>s</p>
</li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>OpenWhisk Runtimes
on Knative (Matt/Priti)</span> </p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-0" style="font-size:
100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Slides: </span><a class="external-link" href="https://www.slideshare.net/MatthewRutkowski/knative-build-for-open-whisk-runtimes-phase-1-20180220"
rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"><span class="diff-html-added"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">https://www.slideshare.net/MatthewRutkowski/knative-build-for-open-whisk-runtimes-phase-1-20180220</span></a>
<br> </span> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Matt shows slides explaining
goal: that is, “getting OpenWhisk runtimes to be able to be<span class="diff-html-added"
id="added-diff-1" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">:</span> </p>

<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">1. built for either “openwhisk”
(default) platform &lt;or&gt;</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">2. built for “knative” (for
use with Knative Serving on Kube)</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Knative has a diff. “contract”,
that is, runs on “/“ (domain root), single endpoint&nbsp;</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">NOT like openwhisk where we
have /init, /run</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Challenge was detect “kantive”
build and register “/“ (root) as entry point where it performs BOTH /init and /run *and
does NOT register /init or /run)</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Future goal: 2-stage build…
where we do not even compile in “conditional IF-THEN-ELSE” logic for knative or openwhisk
platforms, but rather create a stem cell with ONLY the code needed for either target env.</p>
</li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">also enables special built runtime
containers that have special code enabled by “build flags" like “DEBUG” or profile “TRACE”
images</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Matt/Priti: working on adding
more tests</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Web Actions, Raw-Http, etc.</p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Want to try this with ActionLoop
(go proxy)</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>Demo</strong>:
Matt shows “Hello World” deployment on Knative/Kube (docker desktop)</p> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-changed"
id="changed-diff-0" style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">Matt: Priti would have done a much
better job as she got the conditional logic to work and knows Knative/kube better, but she
is having </span> </p> </li> 
</ul> <span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7;
text-decoration: line-through;"> </span><span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-0"
style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">isses
</span> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added"
id="added-diff-2" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">issues </span><span
class="diff-html-changed" id="changed-diff-1" style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">with Kube/Istio
this morning...</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-changed"
style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">Expects a PR/discussion on “dev” list in about a
week or so.</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-changed"
style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">Rodric (chat): "Matt, question for later - instead of
modifying the runtime to bypass init, did you consider leaving the runtime alone and modifying
the invoke protocol so that for some annotated actions it skips calling init"</span>
</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-changed"
style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">Matt: simply tried to fulfill the “contract” Knative/Kube
user expect for a Knative Service (function) or actually for any Kube service would be. &nbsp;We
can talk anytime on dev. list etc.</span> </p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>OpenWhisk Benchmark
Tool proposal (Erez)</strong> </p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Discusses how we have perf.
overhead with current test tools</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Suggests a new tool/new approach</p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">written in NodeJS, produced
one output CSV file to stdout, on/off logging to stderr</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Goal: compare latency of OpenWhisk
when “under stress” (against many concurrent clients)</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Shows graph of Latency results
at different stages of invocation</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong>Demo</strong>
shown</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Docs avail. to explain settings
and how to recreate the demo</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">SETUP (script) creates Rules,
Triggers and Actions</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Workers are created</p>
</li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">All workers are “engaged”
(setup complete)</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Post processing (after 1 minute)
“dump” (CSV records created)</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">full profiling, summaries (computations/sums)
created from timestamps, etc.</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Spreadsheet (Excel) shown after
importing CSV (from this test, which was an Action (blocking) test</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Notice you get trigger start,
to action start as well</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">shows min, max and std. deviations;
for "total overhead", “throughput", etc.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">This run used 4 “workers"</p>
</li> 
</ul> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Carlos: this should go into
“core” openwhisk repo. as a PR</p> </li> 
<li> 
<ul style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">perhaps put it under test/performance
as a “1st stage” before we are able to automate in Travis for inclusion in “main/core”
repo.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">select a “positive” name
for the tool.</p> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
</ul> </li> 
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