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From "Matt Rutkowski (Confluence)" <no-re...@apache.org>
Subject [CONF] OpenWhisk > 2018-11-07 OW Tech Interchange Meeting Notes
Date Wed, 07 Nov 2018 17:40:02 GMT
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Vincent is moderating today</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">last meeting was 2018-10-24</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Attendees:</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Vincent, Matt, <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-0" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Markus, Dave G., Michele, Victor, Carlos, stanciu, Andy, Olivier, Philip Maddux (?)</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-1" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Regrets: Rodric</span> </p> </li> 
</ul> <p class="diff-block-context" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">Introductions of new attendees</p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Victor: <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-0" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">ULC graduate, focusing on </span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-2" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Grad. student at USC. Working on a thesis on </span>real-time <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-1" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">. Look for contribution to </span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-3" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">computing in the Cloud. &nbsp;Goal is looking into how to apply real-time components into </span>OpenWhisk.</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-4" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Markus: now with Red Hat</span> </p> </li> 
</ul> <p class="diff-block-context" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">Open comments on status/updates in a few areas:</p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-2" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Notable changes</span></span> </p> </li> 
<li> <span><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">OpenWhisk core:</span></span> </li> 
<li> <span><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Release: package refactoring to org.apache.openwhisk</span></span> </li> 
<span><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Kubernetes</span></span> 
<span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">: Dave is working on the refactoring of Helm charts, in order to prepare for the production.</span> 
<p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-5" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Main/core OpenWhisk</span></span><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">&nbsp;(Carlos//Markus/Tyson, etc.)</span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a class="external-link" href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Apr+is%3Amerged" rel="nofollow" style="text-decoration: underline;; color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Apr+is%3Amerged</span></a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">PR Review: &nbsp;</span></span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Vincent: changes I saw recently… version update of all prog. languages</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Scala updated to v2.12</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Go updated to 1.9</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: good to create an issue “low hanging fruit” issue to look intp what it would take to upgrade to Go 1.11 for CLI and Whisk Deploy</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Vincent: I tried 1.11 but got some strange errors, so left 1.9 for now...</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: we should have a best practice where we open an issue for any language version updates</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: Any errors you might see are because you need to use Scala 2.12.7 (and not use 2.11). Most repos “touched"</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: Christian merged a change to create/split 2 log records (???)</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: Sven added more metrics for the Invoker, more gran. info on failures and timeouts focus on Docker CLI commands).</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Agenda topics</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Vincent: <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-3" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">renaming of Scala packages</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Nodejs 10: Carlos is working on, actionloop, </span> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-6" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">change to “</span><a class="external-link" href="http://apache.org" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">apache.org</span></a><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">” naming convention for all lib. packages</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Java runtime, main openwhisk have PRs open, seeking review/comments</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: if you have problems with refactoring.</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Runtimes updates</span></span><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">:</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">GoLang</span></span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: working with Michele to see if we can add this runtime to the release repo/scripts/automation…&nbsp;</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Vincent: can create a vote, the repo. release process for modules should be complete. Feel free to ask me any questions.</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Composer</span></strong><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">:</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Dave: working with Olivier to clean up namespace handling (from IBM to openwhisk)</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Graduation:</span></strong> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: asks Matt to fill out Maturity model...</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: then approach IPMC to get feedback...</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Matt: happy to complete "Maturity model on the Wiki that I started a few months ago...</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">but still need to eliminate private playgrounds...</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: I may have a cluster we can “donate” soon...</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Matt: great news. We also have to move a few remaining sets of tests from private playgrounds to open and hoping Vincent can work on this once he is done with package refactoring...</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Kubernetes</span></span><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">: &nbsp;(Dave Grove/Daisy)</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Dave: In the Kube repo. we are refactoring Helm charts to comply with Helm best practices</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">standardize charts, and ready for prouction deployments</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">lots of users giving feedback on documentation (people “kicking the tires”); good comm. contributions/feedback.</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Dave: produce a release with new Helm charts, perhaps with next overall release Vincent is planning.</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Matt and his team will shift to work on Kube..</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Starting with porting providers, creating Helm charts, adding Travis/Jenkins</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Start with CouchDB, work on doc. Persistent Volumes</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">move to other providers… RSS, JIRA, etc.</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Create an “ELK stack” with Monitoring (optional) with helm configs. and default implementations</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">perhaps doc. SPIs</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Create mgmt. console possibly</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Next-gen architecture</span> (Markus<span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-7" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">/Ben</span>):</p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">No update</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Victor: What is progress of next-gen architecture</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Markus: reach out to me… Rodric and I discussed… i plan to facilitate discussion in the near future (Slack or email me)</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Mesos/Compose:</span> (Dragos/Tyson)</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>OpenShift update:</span> (Brendan/Ben)</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-5" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Kubernetes</span></span><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">: &nbsp;(Dave Grove/Daisy)</span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">No update</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">No update</p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Tooling</span>/<span>Utilities</span> (Carlos (CLI), Priti/Matt (wskdeploy))</p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-6" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">No update</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a class="external-link" href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-devtools/pulls" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-9" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-devtools/pulls</span></a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Matt: Whisk Deploy may look at the “Federation” use case, interest from IBM and Adobe...</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">how do we share “projects” across a hybrid model (i.e., public, private, dedicated, distributed)?</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Matt: will post design proposal on Wiki once baked… &nbsp;anticipate December timeframe...</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">adjourn 10:39 AM US Central</span> </p> </li> 
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