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From "Matt Rutkowski (Confluence)" <no-re...@apache.org>
Subject [CONF] OpenWhisk > 2018-10-24 OW Tech Interchange Meeting Notes
Date Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:45:50 GMT
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Carlos <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-0" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Santana </span>is moderating today</p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">last meeting was 2018-10-<span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-1" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">24</span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-0" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">10</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0">Attendees:</p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-1" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos, Matt, James, Vincent, Michele, Andy, Dragos, Priti, Satnciu, Moritz, Jeremias, Chetan, Olivier</span> </p> </li> 
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</ul> <p class="diff-block-context" style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> <br>Introductions of new attendees</p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-2" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Stanciu - at Adobe, joined runtime team a few weeks ago</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Main/core OpenWhisk</span>&nbsp;(<span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-3" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos//Markus/Tyson, etc.</span>)</p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Runtimes (Carlos)</span></span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a class="external-link" href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Apr+is%3Amerged" rel="nofollow" style="text-decoration: underline;; color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Apr+is%3Amerged</a> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Golang&nbsp;</span></span> </p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"> <span>PR Review:<span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;"> </span><span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-2" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">&nbsp;</span></span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Agenda topics</span></span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Renaming scala packages to org.apache.openwhisk&nbsp;</span></strong><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">(Vicent Hou)</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Building runtimes using ActionLoop:</span></strong><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;"> Swift and Scala&nbsp;(Michele Sciabarra)&nbsp;</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-4" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Nick fixed some CORS headers (Htto requests) helps Composer</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Cleanup warnings throughput back-end, for “good” path</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">API with path parameter, Mark fixed</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Allowing initial subjects in a DB, can now add more subjects</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Controller, no longer runs as root (OW_USER), Ivoker still root (for access to docker host)</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Chetan fixed attachments of &gt; 50 megs (Akka limitations)</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Agenda topics</span></span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <strong><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Release</span></strong> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">"Naming convention for packages"</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Affects mostly main repo., Java runtime, and others that have “tests” like NodeJS, CLI, wskdeploy after scanning</span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">needs to be org.apache.X" instead.</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Change “main” first, then move onto other dependent repos.</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Vincent asks for help testing this change for all providers that use OW today</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos notes Chetan has a PR that is affecting Scala update… can use that to see what files affected; should merge that one first before your naming change</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">New repo created&nbsp;</span></span><a class="external-link" href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-runtime-dotnet" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-runtime-dotnet</span></a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Worked with INFRA to setup new repo (enable travis, issues, protect master branch, notifications, etc..)</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Next steps: Configure travis scripts for CICD&nbsp;</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-changed" id="changed-diff-0" style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">Latest fixes for vendor files landed&nbsp;</span></span><a class="external-link" href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-runtime-go/pull/55" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"><span class="diff-html-changed" id="changed-diff-1" style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-runtime-go/pull/55</span></a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-5" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: </span><span class="diff-html-changed" id="changed-diff-3" style="background-color: #d6f0ff;">Next steps: To include as part of default set in ansible, docker-compose, kube deployments</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Worked with INFRA to setup new repo (enable travis, issues, protect master branch, notifications, etc..)</span></span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span><span class="diff-html-removed" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">Next steps: Configure travis scripts for CICD&nbsp;</span></span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">shows slides titled: “Building Runtimes with the ActionLoop: Scala &amp; Swift"</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">techniques to building runtimes for GoLang, proposing we propagate to other runtimes/images</span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">GolLang is a compiled language, you cannot “Extend” an executable easily as you can with JS, Puthon Java...</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">GoLang runtime uses an old “pipes” technique from Unix, it is very fast...</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">request POST -&gt; Http Server (GoProxy) → stdin -&gt; Action -&gt; </span><strong><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">fd3</span></strong><span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;"> (file descriptor 3, and also stdout and stdeerr avail. for action as well).&nbsp;→ Response</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Shows “ActionLoop code in Scala (code)</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Implemented the ActionLoop in Scala and Swift… did perf. tests with good results</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Steps to create a new Runtime (using ActionLoop</span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">write a compiler, using Python scripts</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">bundle it into a Docker image</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">pass validation tests</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Scala runtime actually built on “Ammonite"</span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">allows import of libs. from bundle | internet | JARs</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Wha’s next: complete Scala runtime</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Create Docker Skeleton v2 using ActionLoop</span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Test on other compiled languages e.g., Rust, C++, etc.</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: OpenFaaS has same concept they call “WatchDog"</span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">use IPC (not stdin, but pipes) so it is very fast</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Michele - great savings not forking another process, stay in same process with IPC</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: may need to test with multi-tenancy</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: Tyson indicated that using a “context object” is becoming a good paradigm for FaaS</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Vincent: are we going to change existing runtimes (plans)?</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Carlos: not NodeJS or PHP, but perhaps Java &amp; Swift, but will be a new “kind” that we need to somehow indicate using CLI option to select this implementation</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Michele sees connection to Spark</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Chetan: can be useful in other runtimes (dynamically class loads dependencies), maybe part of the init protocol?</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Michele: could pre-compi;e the Action</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Chetan: avoid storing in Artifact store, runtime, pulls in dependencies directly. Operator can cache...</span> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Dragos: looks good, thanks Michele. &nbsp;NodeJS and Python could benefit as well. &nbsp;Google Cloud Functions also does some compilation step before as well.</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Next-gen architecture</span> (Markus): <span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-4" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">&nbsp;</span> </p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-7" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">No update</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Mesos/Compose<span class="diff-html-removed" id="removed-diff-5" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ffe7e7; text-decoration: line-through;">/Splunk update</span>:</span> (Dragos/Tyson)</p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-8" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">No update</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>OpenShift update:</span> (Brendan/Ben)</p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-9" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">No update</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>Kubernetes</span>: &nbsp;(Dave Grove/Daisy)</p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-10" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">Dave is getting lots of interest, more people trying it out (Dave on vacation today), Helm a big success</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span>API</span> <span>Gateway</span> (Matt Hamann/Dragos)</p> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-11" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">No update</span> </p> </li> 
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<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <a class="external-link" href="https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-devtools/pulls" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none"><span class="diff-html-added" id="added-diff-13" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-devtools/pulls</span></a> </p> </li> 
<li> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"> <span class="diff-html-added" style="font-size: 100%; background-color: #ddfade;">No update</span> </p> </li> 
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