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From Alexandro Colorado <...@oooes.org>
Subject Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Date Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:34:44 GMT
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, BRM <bm_witness@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org>
>
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Girvin Herr <
> girvin.herr@sbcglobal.net
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On 09/23/2013 02:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > >    There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration became a
> > > >>> "theme-only"  where the Oxygen skin will get selected under the
> Native
> > > >>> Widget Framework. ​
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I honestly don't care if it integrates into the theming. I'd just
> like
> > > to
> > > >>> have AOO on the K menu and the mime-types association.
> > > >>> Anything else is gravy.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  ​This is a list of the 'efforts' done by OpenSuSE on integrating
> > > Mozilla
> > > >> Firefox with KDE, unfortunately there are not links to the actual
> > > patches
> > > >> but it does include, KDE File Dialog support, KDE Application
> launcher
> > > >> support and other things (that you dont care) like icons and themes.
> > > >> http://old-en.opensuse.org/**KDE/FirefoxIntegration<
> > > http://old-en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration>
> > > >>
> > > >> If there is a way to get to those patches, it would be trivial to
> switch
> > > >> to
> > > >> the OpenOffice values since this is mainly KDE code, more than AOO.
> ​
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The reference to "...as well..." refers to Slackware's Mozilla
> > > Thunderbird
> > > > going back to the 17.0.8 branch too.
> > > >
> > > > More to the topic of AOO desktop integration, I am no longer using
> AOO.
> > > >  It's a long story and way off topic.  However, I am using
> LibreOffice
> > > with
> > > > KDE4 and it installs into the K-menu just fine.  I am using the
> > > > freedesktop-menus desktop file.  I would expect AOO to have the same
> > > > desktop file in their package.  If not, well then maybe the subject
> is
> > > not
> > > > so "hell bent".
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > Girvin Herr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > We do! see other messages in this thread. And, the install guide has
> just
> > > been modified to emphasize this!
> >
> > ​Aaron Seigo replied to me on G+ with a few links about the current
> > freedesktop spec that is followed. I would forward the question about
> what
> > we want to achieve with Nepomuk:
> > -- Aaron comment ---
> > For mimetypes:
> >
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/shared-mime-info-spec/shared-mime-info-spec-latest.html
> >
> > File associations are done by default using application .desktop files
> and
> > modified using the mimeapps.list file in ~/.local/share/applications as
> per
> > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/mime-actions-spec/
> >
> > For application menus:
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
> >
> > The xdg utils can  make using these systems from the application side
> > easier.
>
> Great, and look forward to it.
>
> > As for Akonadi / Nepomuk, I'm not sure what you are looking for exactly?
> > API to hook AOO into Akonadi / Nepomuk? If so .. if you can be a bit more
> > specific as to what the  needs are I can be a bit more specific in my
> > answer.
>
> Honestly, I'm not sure. I don't know the full functionality of
> Akonadi/Nepomuk;
> the biggest part I'm aware of is the Desktop search as they provide a huge
> metadata
> search functionality; but I am aware there's other things to.
>
> So for instance, one aspect might be to have a search option in the Open
> File dialogs to
> find things using that search functionality - e.g. keyword file search.
> Windows provides
> something similar now too, so the functionality wouldn't have to be
> limited to KDE4.
>
> PIM integration would be good for shared contacts, address book, etc -
> useful for Mail Merges,
> letters, etc.
>
> As I said, I don't know everything that is there so someone would probably
> have to look
> at what is provided and see what makes sense to utilize. Much of the
> functionality is stuff
> that is slowly appearing in other platforms (GNOME, Windows), so I doubt
> the UI side would
> be anything specific to KDE in the end.
>
> May be Aaron Seigo could point us to the documentation to make the list
> for people to
> go through and decide what would be useful for integration?
>

​A feature that OOo used to have is to use the system file picker dialog.
However I no longer see this option, can anyone else test this for me?

​Please go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice General -> Open/Save Dialog
http://www.ofs.edu.sg/help-desk/teacher-faq/body_clip_image_055.png ​



>
> $0.02
>
> Ben
>
>
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