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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Date Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:30:55 GMT
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the
> > distro.
> > > Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very integrated with LO.
> > >
> > > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO.
> > >
> >
> > Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types.
> >
>
> ​Just like we do automatically for Windows, but offer no solution on Linux.
> Users need to do it manually.​
> ​
>
> http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/images/Download_2_4_1_html_5bc7f92d.png
> ​
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an option
> > for
> > > Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO 4.0.1
> at
> > this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No  details until I can
> > figure out more what the problem could be.
> >
>
> ​There is also Akonadi which is the underlining resource manager for
> KDE-PIM. Not sure to what degree of integration with KMail "services" is
> dependable of it. I know in the past Sun people worked with Mozilla to
> integrate some of the Calendar/Mail services with OpenOffice under the
> Lightning project. ​
> ​
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.0/#Calendar_and_Email_Client_.28Mozilla_Thunderbird_and_Lightning.29
>
> Evolution is practically death, but both Kolab/Akonadi are very well alive
> under the KDE layer. ​
>
>
>
> >
> > I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg
> > specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use of
> > those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation needed --
> a
> > topic for the "dev" list.
> >
>
> ​Gnome use gconf for their setting rules (API), I don't know the actual
> name for KDE but I know there is one. This is a few layers above DBus/uDev,
> but more on the Desktop environment level.
>
> I also think that we need to take efforts to make OpenOffice finally deal
> with media (for embedded objects). Sun never wanted to depend on DM
> specific media frameworks like gstreamer, and preffered a very obsolete JMF
> (Java Media Framework) which quite honestly never really worked as
> expected. Freedesktop have some frameworks like Telepathy, and KDE has
> phonon to deal with media.
>
> KDE deals greatly with OpenDocuments (not really AOO but helps) having an
> internal rendering libraries for all things OpenDocuments natively.
> https://kenai.com/projects/kde-odf-thumbnail​
>
> A lot of useful information here. Oddly, now using AOO 4.0.1, RC3, and
> configuring my e-mail manually, all is good. With the previous RC2 version,
> I got into some dialog boxes that seemed to want to do some configuration,
> but only got partially through that. Odd. And, it didn't work. But, today,
> all is well. OK, I will look into this when I have a moment.
>


> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this
> > > > message.
> > > >
> > > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> > > >
> > > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you
> mean
> > > by
> > > > this comment --
> > > >
> > > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> > > >
> > > > Could you elaborate?
> > > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > MzK
> > > >
> > > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> > > >  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> > > >                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > > http://www.openoffice.org
> > > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9  5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> >  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> >                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> http://www.openoffice.org
> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9  5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
>



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MzK

"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
 to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
                             -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain

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