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From Greg Madden <gomadtr...@gci.net>
Subject Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Date Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:19:49 GMT
On Tuesday 24 September 2013 11:34:44 you wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, BRM <bm_witness@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > From: Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org>
> >
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO
> > go away
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Kay Schenk
> > > <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Girvin Herr <
> >
> > girvin.herr@sbcglobal.net
> >
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 09/23/2013 02:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > >
> > > > >    There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration
> > > > > became a
> > > > >
> > > > >>> "theme-only"  where the Oxygen skin will get selected under
> > > > >>> the
> >
> > Native
> >
> > > > >>> Widget Framework. ​
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I honestly don't care if it integrates into the theming.
> > > > >>> I'd just
> >
> > like
> >
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > >>> have AOO on the K menu and the mime-types association.
> > > > >>> Anything else is gravy.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>  ​This is a list of the 'efforts' done by OpenSuSE on
> > > > >>> integrating
> > > >
> > > > Mozilla
> > > >
> > > > >> Firefox with KDE, unfortunately there are not links to the
> > > > >> actual
> > > >
> > > > patches
> > > >
> > > > >> but it does include, KDE File Dialog support, KDE
> > > > >> Application
> >
> > launcher
> >
> > > > >> support and other things (that you dont care) like icons and
> > > > >> themes. http://old-en.opensuse.org/**KDE/FirefoxIntegration<
> > > >
> > > > http://old-en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration>
> > > >
> > > > >> If there is a way to get to those patches, it would be
> > > > >> trivial to
> >
> > switch
> >
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> the OpenOffice values since this is mainly KDE code, more
> > > > >> than AOO.
> >
> > ​
> >
> > > > > The reference to "...as well..." refers to Slackware's
> > > > > Mozilla
> > > >
> > > > Thunderbird
> > > >
> > > > > going back to the 17.0.8 branch too.
> > > > >
> > > > > More to the topic of AOO desktop integration, I am no longer
> > > > > using
> >
> > AOO.
> >
> > > > >  It's a long story and way off topic.  However, I am using
> >
> > LibreOffice
> >
> > > > with
> > > >
> > > > > KDE4 and it installs into the K-menu just fine.  I am using
> > > > > the freedesktop-menus desktop file.  I would expect AOO to
> > > > > have the same desktop file in their package.  If not, well
> > > > > then maybe the subject
> >
> > is
> >
> > > > not
> > > >
> > > > > so "hell bent".
> > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > Girvin Herr
> > > >
> > > > We do! see other messages in this thread. And, the install
> > > > guide has
> >
> > just
> >
> > > > been modified to emphasize this!
> > >
> > > ​Aaron Seigo replied to me on G+ with a few links about the
> > > current freedesktop spec that is followed. I would forward the
> > > question about
> >
> > what
> >
> > > we want to achieve with Nepomuk:
> > > -- Aaron comment ---
> > > For mimetypes:
> >
> > http://standards.freedesktop.org/shared-mime-info-spec/shared-mime-
> >info-spec-latest.html
> >
> > > File associations are done by default using application .desktop
> > > files
> >
> > and
> >
> > > modified using the mimeapps.list file in
> > > ~/.local/share/applications as
> >
> > per
> >
> > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/mime-actions-spec/
> > >
> > > For application menus:
> >
> > http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
> >
> > > The xdg utils can  make using these systems from the application
> > > side easier.
> >
> > Great, and look forward to it.
> >
> > > As for Akonadi / Nepomuk, I'm not sure what you are looking for
> > > exactly? API to hook AOO into Akonadi / Nepomuk? If so .. if you
> > > can be a bit more specific as to what the  needs are I can be a
> > > bit more specific in my answer.
> >
> > Honestly, I'm not sure. I don't know the full functionality of
> > Akonadi/Nepomuk;
> > the biggest part I'm aware of is the Desktop search as they provide
> > a huge metadata
> > search functionality; but I am aware there's other things to.
> >
> > So for instance, one aspect might be to have a search option in the
> > Open File dialogs to
> > find things using that search functionality - e.g. keyword file
> > search. Windows provides
> > something similar now too, so the functionality wouldn't have to be
> > limited to KDE4.
> >
> > PIM integration would be good for shared contacts, address book,
> > etc - useful for Mail Merges,
> > letters, etc.
> >
> > As I said, I don't know everything that is there so someone would
> > probably have to look
> > at what is provided and see what makes sense to utilize. Much of
> > the functionality is stuff
> > that is slowly appearing in other platforms (GNOME, Windows), so I
> > doubt the UI side would
> > be anything specific to KDE in the end.
> >
> > May be Aaron Seigo could point us to the documentation to make the
> > list for people to
> > go through and decide what would be useful for integration?
>
> ​A feature that OOo used to have is to use the system file picker
> dialog. However I no longer see this option, can anyone else test
> this for me?
>
> ​Please go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice General -> Open/Save
> Dialog
> http://www.ofs.edu.sg/help-desk/teacher-faq/body_clip_image_055.png

It is not available on OO 4.0+ here.

 I noticed the titlebar for AOO is the same, look & function, as the 
titlebar in my other KDE apps.

-- 
Peace,

Greg

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