Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-openoffice-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F4B0100B0 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8259 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jul 2013 20:13:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-users-archive@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 7870 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jul 2013 20:13:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 7818 invoked by uid 99); 19 Jul 2013 20:13:52 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:13:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-pd0-f182.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username robweir, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:13:51 +0000 Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id r10so4646356pdi.41 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:13:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5z1rFxAXaEy+ctuIrYmcphO+PdirQiYjitUjhQuC6vs=; b=MI2m41Z8xHEuL+QjIMGRA7Zz1FSLAzKPs5BY2spX/Z/ygrLW00r3fduKTvIiahVCFt 9+edBwBkhifG+btyqiZbBGqgBpqoRMGBFz0JX6Bq44wuzAQ9eMO3b0PTLCxgVo4GIVf0 +IbtlaekY0uA/aBrWaovWrYVjg87Ce4kafcENx6SuuJfIG7/TCxaJgVejx73Lgr6AnnZ QSnVOj+xYFE9zTDKFd5HHhhigsuj6p0J6v93ruMP996+TjWPA3xKMQ1sqmz6V5xByNS4 +nl0v/IfTCoAHBPYIHtfnRffuD4E/MoHbTzK0ijMtFqfZig5lZgt+OBYvqoSTi1cvZ7M aadg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.233.73 with SMTP id tu9mr19847922pac.124.1374264831468; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.101.101 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:13:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1374234552.38092.YahooMailNeo@web172505.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1374234552.38092.YahooMailNeo@web172505.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:13:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AOO-Members dont forget voting From: Rob Weir To: users@openoffice.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:49 AM, kalle hauser wrote: > for the RC2 to be released as AOO 4.0 (or even not) on > > http://www.marshut.com/rrypt/release-openoffice-4-rc2.html > > ;-) > > My question to this: > > it seems, that not one IT-website in the internet knows about a RC of AOO= 4. why you dont start a PR-campain for the new AOO 4 and make a public tes= ting of the RC? > > Like SuperKK on the AOO blog says: "You need to work on your PR. Why were= there no public beta announcements? The LibreOffice propaganda machine has= already convinced many people that OO is dead. Release early, release ofte= n." > We've discussed AOO 4.0 many times, on the blog and in social media, and this has been covered in the press. Yes, we don't issue a press release every week or every time we change code indentation, like some other projects seem to do. But we do take care of major announcements. For example, the AOO 4.0 press release already went out. You might not have seen it, but that's the point. Press releases are for the press, so they can write their stories. They want "the scoop". We're doing press interviews for AOO 4.0 as well. Remember, if it is on our website then it is not news anymore. So we should not confuse noise with impact. There is an open source echo-chamber, and saying the same tired FUD within that small circle of authors will not convince or convert a single user to move toward or away from OpenOffice. Or at least it will have very little impact compared to the effort. We need to find a way to reach out, beyond the "usual suspects" and get the news to a new audience. Remember, the growth for AOO is not from those within the open source community. The growth is from those who have never heard of open source. > After finishing work on the major-release AOO4, i hope you bring out bugf= ix-releases more often than all 6 - 8 month. i my opinion bugfixreleases al= l 3-4 month would be a good intervall... > > > btw: i switched to LO 3.5/3.6, after the OOo-develpoment was on-ice/ incu= bating, but a comparisen of LO4.0 and AOO3.4.1 shows 1 important thing: You= Apache-Guys need longer to bring an new release and implement new features= , but the quality of your product seems to be higher.... > I think the pace of development is one reason for the better quality. I'd like to release more often as well, but I don't want to compromise on quality. But I think there is room for improvement here. And we are discussing having a public beta for AOO 4.1. Regards, -Rob > e.g LO announces improvments on Load/Save-speed over and over angain, but= in the end, AOO 3.4.1 starts faster than LO 3.6. The improvments on the d= ocx/xlsx/pptx-filters in LO are also not as good as yours. > > > keep up the good work! > > regards > > K. Hauser --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@openoffice.apache.org