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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
Date Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:40:09 GMT
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:34 AM, MIKE LISH <emellish@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wouldn't expect you to write in custom support for every email client in
> existence, but I would expect an exception to be made for the biggest and
>  perhaps the top three.  What would it take to do!  If perhaps %95 percent
> of email traffic is represented by the top three clients why exclude the
> biggest of them, in spite of their preference not to support MAPI.   It
> doesn't make any sense!
>

Maybe you missed the part where I pointed out that 3rd parties have
already written adapters to bring MAPI support to GMail.  That's the
way to go.  If you use an adapter then all of your desktop
applications that support MAPI will be able to work with GMail as
well.

-Rob

> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
> On 24 July 2013 12:31, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:03 AM, MIKE LISH <emellish@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > All of this seems rather convoluted and complicated.  Why can't AOO be
>> made
>> > to recognize Google, as it has been made to recognize its compatibility
>> > with Microsoft .doc  etc. etc. instead of pushing blame in Google's
>> >  direction. I find it difficult to accept there is no work around to this
>> > problem. C'mon!  AOO is great in most other ways, and it seems ridiculous
>> > for it not to recognize Google email! !
>> >
>>
>> Simple:  there is an industry standard for accessing email:  MAPI
>> (Messaging Application Programming Interface).  OpenOffice works with
>> any application that supports MAPI.   Most email clients support MAPI.
>>  GMail does not.  That is their choice.  We can't force them to
>> support MAPI.  But we're not writing custom support for every email
>> client in existence.  We support the standard.
>>
>> A quick search shows there are products out there that claim to add
>> MAPI support to GMail. I haven't tried any of them to see how they
>> work with OpenOffice, but this one sounds interesting:
>> http://www.mapi4gmail.com/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> > Mike Lish
>> >
>> >
>> > On 23 July 2013 19:03, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> That's not the issue.  Apache OpenOffice does not discriminate on that
>> >> basis.
>> >>
>> >> What is the issue is that Apache OpenOffice uses the on-desktop protocol
>> >> for requesting the opening of an e-mail with a given attachment.  This
>> will
>> >> usually be whatever is recognized as the default e-mail application on
>> the
>> >> desktop.  Google does not provide any kind of desktop presence by which
>> >> this can be handled.
>> >>
>> >> However, it is possible to access Google Mail by standard desktop e-mail
>> >> applications, instead of using a browser.  *That* software can then be
>> >> reached by Apache OpenOffice so long as it is capable of being
>> registered
>> >> as the default e-mail application.
>> >>
>> >> The Microsoft Outlook desktop application will do this -- connect to
>> >> Google Mail and integrate with Apache OpenOffice.  Depending on
>> operating
>> >> system, the Windows Live Mail application will also connect to Google
>> Mail
>> >> and also be triggered by Apache OpenOffice.  The same should apply for
>> >> Outlook Express if someone still uses an operating system that has that
>> >> desktop application.
>> >>
>> >> There are some differences in how this works with Windows 8.  There is
>> >> some other thread or perhaps bugzilla issue where that has been
>> discussed.
>> >>
>> >>  - Dennis
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Urmas [mailto:davian818@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 05:08 AM
>> >> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
>> >> Subject: Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
>> >>
>> >> I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very
>> annoying
>> >> problem.  It does not!!
>> >>
>> >> I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to
>> recognize
>> >> Google email is stone age stuff !
>> >>
>> >> Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from
>> >> 3rd
>> >> party company?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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