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From "Maurice Howe" <>
Subject RE: AOO-Members dont forget voting
Date Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:41:18 GMT
I'm repeating myself, but...

The AOO crew continues to serve us well -- not only with a quality product
but with well-phrased responses to inquiries and problems.  I was part of
engineering & software development, publications, etc, at Big Blue for many
years, so I have a soft spot in my heart for you; the volunteers who "keep
the wheels on" with this first-rate offering.  Thanks, Guy & Gals!

Maurice Howe
[just a user, but a happy one!]

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [] 
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: AOO-Members dont forget voting

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:49 AM, kalle hauser <> wrote:
> for the RC2 to be released as AOO 4.0 (or even not) on
> ;-)
> My question to this:
> it seems, that not one IT-website in the internet knows about a RC of AOO
4. why you dont start a PR-campain for the new AOO 4 and make a public
testing of the RC?
> Like SuperKK on the AOO blog says: "You need to work on your PR. Why were
there no public beta announcements? The LibreOffice propaganda machine has
already convinced many people that OO is dead. Release early, release

We've discussed AOO 4.0 many times, on the blog and in social media, and
this has been covered in the press.  Yes, we don't issue a press release
every week or every time we change code indentation, like some other
projects seem to do.  But we do take care of major announcements.

For example, the AOO 4.0 press release already went out.  You might not have
seen it, but that's the point.  Press releases are for the press, so they
can write their stories.  They want "the scoop".  We're doing press
interviews for AOO 4.0 as well.  Remember, if it is on our
website then it is not news anymore.   So we should not confuse noise
with impact.

There is an open source echo-chamber, and saying the same tired FUD within
that small circle of authors will not convince or convert a single user to
move toward or away from OpenOffice.  Or at least it will have very little
impact compared to the effort.  We need to find a way to reach out, beyond
the "usual suspects" and get the news to a new audience.  Remember, the
growth for AOO is not from those within the open source community.  The
growth is from those who have never heard of open source.

> After finishing work on the major-release AOO4, i hope you bring out
bugfix-releases more often than all 6 - 8 month. i my opinion bugfixreleases
all 3-4 month would be a good intervall...
> btw: i switched to LO 3.5/3.6, after the OOo-develpoment was on-ice/
incubating, but a comparisen of LO4.0 and AOO3.4.1 shows 1 important thing:
You Apache-Guys need longer to bring an new release and implement new
features, but the quality of your product seems to be higher....

I think the pace of development is one reason for the better quality.
 I'd like to release more often as well, but I don't want to compromise on
quality.  But I think there is room for improvement here.  And we are
discussing having a public beta for AOO 4.1.



> e.g LO announces improvments on Load/Save-speed over and over angain, but
in  the end, AOO 3.4.1 starts faster than LO 3.6. The improvments on the
docx/xlsx/pptx-filters in LO are also not as good as yours.
> keep up the good work!
> regards
> K. Hauser

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