Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-openoffice-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 682D3C5AF for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38604 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jun 2013 01:16:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-users-archive@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 38478 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jun 2013 01:16:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 38469 invoked by uid 99); 21 Jun 2013 01:16:21 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:16:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of cuyfalls@hotmail.com designates 65.55.90.236 as permitted sender) Received: from [65.55.90.236] (HELO snt0-omc4-s33.snt0.hotmail.com) (65.55.90.236) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:16:16 +0000 Received: from SNT140-DS15 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s33.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:15:56 -0700 X-TMN: [6o2AuFkLlkypcxt4TeA6oigXLUdgf1GN] X-Originating-Email: [cuyfalls@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Virgil Arrington" To: References: <51C39CBF.2000707@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <51C39CBF.2000707@optonline.net> Subject: Re: Codes Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:15:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3508.205 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3508.205 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2013 01:15:56.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[E18BD3A0:01CE6E1C] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Wow, Doug, tell us how you really feel. ;) Like you, I was a WordPerfect devotee for many years as our employer used it. I bought a copy for my home computer and was very happy. Then, my employer switched to Word. We all freaked, thinking the world would end without our beloved reveal codes. My secretary even walked out of the office and didn't return for three days. It was not a happy time. I then started learning Word with its styles-based formatting. At about the same time, I downloaded what was then StarOffice and used it at home (I wasn’t about to pay several hundred dollars for Word). Over time, I learned how to use styles and now, with styles, I can make my programs sing and dance. I wouldn't dream of going back to WP. I still have it on my computer to read documents sent to me by others, and every time I load it, it looks like a techno-dinosaur. Reveal codes? Why? With a styles-based program, there are no codes to reveal. The fact that WP needs reveal codes shows how truly easy it is to screw things up in a WP document. You can change so many parameters in mid-paragraph, often by accident, and you can spend a lot of time trying to track it down. Not so with a styles-based program. Obviously, WP works for you, which is fine, but in my experience, I found that with styles, I can accomplish my work much, much faster, AND get consistent formatting results document wide, which is very important when you have a document with multiple headings and other specially formatted paragraphs. With WP, I not only had to proofread my text, but also my formatting to make sure it was consistent. Styles have set me free. Virgil -----Original Message----- From: Doug Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:22 PM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Codes On 06/20/2013 07:54 PM, Patricia Hickin wrote: > Is there any way to reveal codes in OO (the way you can in WordPerfect)? We went thru this a couple of months ago. The short answer is NO! You have to use something they call styles, which will change your whole document, not just the particular framus you're trying to modify. They have done this quite deliberately, and have no intention of ever changing it. Probably in the styles there is something that will fix your problem, but I refuse to deal with it. I have WordPerfect on a Windows machine, and when I need to do serious writing, that's where I go. For slightly less serious writing, I use TextMaker on the Linux machine, from SoftMaker, which has both paid and free versions. I bought the paid version about 8 months ago. I don't use OO or LO. Not because of the styles problem. but because they are poor editing programs. And also, they are primitive compared to WP and TM. (But, I confess, for any serious work the styles problem would drive me shrieking away!) OO _may_ become more user-friendly; they promised a few months ago to incorporate much or most of IBM's Symphony, which at least is not primitive. Last I tried Symphony, however, it was full of bugs. (Symphony is a close cousin, anyway.) We'll see. . . . --doug > > I am having a problem with the following: > > I am preparing a list of books as follows: > > In a table of two columns, I insert an image of the book cover in the > first > (a narrow) column. In the 2nd column I put info about the book: title, > author, publisher & date. > > I have obtained the info from www.worldcat.org, compiled a list of the > books, copied the list into Notepad to strip it of formatting. Next I > copied the list into an OO text document and formatted it as follows: > > font Calibri color black > title: 18 point bold italic > author & publishing info (two separate lines): 15 point regular. > > For some reason, OO is changing the color of the publishing info to blue. > I change it to black. but when I save it the color switches to blue!! > > It is driving me crazy!!! > > Any ideas?? Thanks!! > > Pat > -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@openoffice.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@openoffice.apache.org