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From: Brian Barker <b.m.barker@btinternet.com>
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At 09:38 24/06/2013 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
>On 06/23/2013 12:08 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
>>At 22:20 22/06/2013 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
>>At 14:44 22/06/2013 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
>>>>Now if OO and LO are so great, why can't they deal with curly 
>>>>quotes and apostrophes in imported text? I have to go thru and 
>>>>fix all the damned inch marks one by one by hand. WordPerfect can 
>>>>do that automatically. Not only that, it can differentiate 
>>>>between quote marks and real inch and foot designators. Let's see 
>>>>your OO/LO do that!
>>>
>>>I am not sure what this is since I have never had any particular 
>>>difficulty dealing with these things.... though I am not sure how 
>>>one can understand that a particular single quote is an "inch 
>>>mark" as opposed to a non-curly double quote.
>>
>>I think the reference to an "inch mark" is simply a way of 
>>identifying your (typewriter-style) "non-curly" double quote.
>>
>>But Mr McGarrett does have a point, I think.  OpenOffice Writer 
>>will replace typed single and double quotes with what it calls 
>>custom quotes quite efficiently as you type.  But if you have 
>>existing straight quotes in a document (perhaps in an inherited 
>>document or in text pasted in from elsewhere), there appears to be 
>>no easy way to apply that intelligence after the event.  You could 
>>replace a straight quote with a curly one, but you'd have to select 
>>manually the individual cases where you needed open and close 
>>quotes: you cannot at this stage invoke Writer's ability to use its 
>>intelligence about this.  In some other word processors (dare I 
>>mention Microsoft Word if I promise to wash my mouth out?), you can 
>>merely replace straight quotes with straight quotes: replacement is 
>>treated the same way as typing, the same intelligence is invoked, 
>>and curly quotes of the appropriate handedness are substituted en masse.
>
>Oh, now I get it.... WP will auto-magically replace straight quotes 
>with curly quotes when you import a document. For most of what I do, 
>that would really mess things up for me.

I'm not sure that's true: it's certainly not so for Microsoft 
Word.  But if you replace straight quotes with the same thing in 
Word, it will make the change then - so it is controllable.

>I did have one document, however, where I desired that behavior, so 
>I wrote a macro to do it if I remember correctly; would have been 
>nice to have had a built-in command to do it for me already.

You'll have noticed, I hope, that I've anyway been corrected: you 
*can* do this easily in Writer, using Format | AutoCorrect > | Apply.

Brian Barker


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