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From Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject Re: [libreoffice-users] ”Artifacts” in OpenOffice and LibreOffice
Date Sun, 12 May 2013 19:57:44 GMT
Hi :)
Ahh, great to hear someone else prefers Unity to KDE!  I think the KDE team are great and
doing great stuff and my neighbour thinks it's fantastic.  I just find myself enjoying Unity
nowadays but i'm glad KDE is around.  

Hmm, do you have to buy a whole new computer just to get a new graphics card?  My current
desktop has had 4 new graphics cards over the years.  But it's also had 2 changes of fans,
1 new power-supply, more ram, 3 new hard-drives, 3 'new'(ish) Cpus and 2 new mbords, err and
2 new cases (hence the change of fans).  There's still 1 of the fans that has been in all
combinations.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  






>________________________________
> From: Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum@gmail.com>
>To: users@openoffice.apache.org; LibreOffice Användare <users@global.libreoffice.org>;
Ubuntu Användarforum <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com> 
>Sent: Sunday, 12 May 2013, 20:43
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] ”Artifacts” in OpenOffice and LibreOffice
> 
>
>2013/5/11 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <andrew@pitonyak.org>:
>>
>> I have had subtle redraw issues with OO off and on, and I always blamed it
>> on an interaction between applications and the video drivers. Realize that I
>> use nVidia video cards on 64-bit Fedora using the proprietary video drivers.
>> What I saw was not remotely as bad. Admittedly, when I tried out the latest
>> dev build, it was totally unusable (of course, the single tester was unable
>> to reproduce on Windows 7).
>>
>> see https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122214
>>
>> Are you able to do a test and change your video driver say between the free
>> and not free driver to see if there is a change (I do not use Ubuntu so I
>> don't have a good handle on what drivers are available or how).
>>
>> I used to have exactly the same problem in QT, and it was very bad. I was
>> able to avoid the problem with QT Creator by starting it using
>>
>> -graphicssystem raster
>>
>> Not that I expect this to help you. I did notice that it still has some
>> rendering issues that appeared in the latest versions (I believe it is
>> related to an over-lay issue when you edit a field.... that assumption
>> allowed me to fix it in the software that I write, but I did not jump into
>> the QT code base).
>>
>> I have seen strange redraw issues so long in OO that correcting for it is
>> almost automatic in my brain (scroll screen up then down to clear) so I
>> cannot even say if I still see the problem. I think I do, but it is for sure
>> not as bad is it used to be for me.
>>
>> I know, that I have rambled on and on.... I will summarize in saying
>>
>> 1. I have never seen it so bad
>> 2. I have seen screen corruption
>> 3. You may avoid some of it based on the video driver
>>
>> If I had it that bad on my Fedora system, I would likely change my desktop
>> on login to see if it helped. With Fedora, I can easily jump between Gnome
>> and KDE (as one example). I would also try jumping between the two different
>> drivers available to see how that helped as well. Sadly, the "free" driver
>> is poor with respect to 3D stuff.
>
>Thanks for your input, and also thanks to all of you who replied.
>
>I did some more tests and I found that it seems to be a problem
>related to the fact that my graphics card is blacklisted for use with
>Unity 3D.
>First I installed KDE, just to see what happens. I wasn't sure what
>package to install, so I installed kde-full, which maybe was a bit
>overkill…
>I logged out and then in to KDE, configured the driver to use both
>screens, then I opened a spreadsheet. Oddly enough, it tried to open
>the file with an archive manager, so I had to manually tell it to open
>with OpenOffice. I then opened the Basic IDE window and I found no
>problems what so ever, except that I don't like KDE, but that's
>another question…
>
>I didn't try the free driver, but maybe I will later.
>
>Right now I am logged in to Unity 2D and that also works flawlessly. I
>don't like Unity 2D either, though. I miss some Compiz effects, among
>other things… Maybe I just have to live with it until I buy another
>computer with a non-blacklisted graphics card…
>
>
>Johnny Rosenberg
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/11/2013 08:52 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
>>>
>>> I have had this problem for quite some time now (months if not years)
>>> in LibreOffice and OpenOffice. The problems are maybe a little bit
>>> worse in LibreOffice, but I didn't exactly measure it…
>>>
>>> It looks like a graphics card problem, but why are nothing else
>>> affected? It only happens to OpenOffice and LibreOffice. I tested a
>>> few versions and it seems to not matter. The screenshots are taken
>>> with Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 and I saw the same thing in LibreOffice
>>> 3.5, 3.6 and 4.0. I think this also happened with earlier LibreOffice
>>> versions, like 3.4 and 3.3. I didn't use OpenOffice since 3.2 (except
>>> 3.4.1, which I use these days), and I don't even remember what it
>>> looked like.
>>>
>>> Here's a screenshot with Apache OpenOffice Calc 3.4.1. I added some
>>> arrows pointing at the problem areas:
>>> http://ubuntuone.com/0wvqcaN38PC5835t4uJVPv
>>>
>>> The worst thing is when I try to use the Basic IDE, take a look at
>>> this. Very hard to write and edit code when it looks like this:
>>> http://ubuntuone.com/4HRPQMpblZT97UxHq5ggzO
>>>
>>> My operating system is Ubuntu 12.04 and the more stuff I run at the
>>> same time, the worse will it look.
>>>
>>> My graphics card is the nVidia GeForce Go 7300, which is blacklisted
>>> for use with the Unity 3D desktop, so that may be what's causing this
>>> problem, but still it ONLY happens to LibreOffice and OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> One thought that I have is that LibreOffice and OpenOffice are not GTK
>>> applications (I think – are they?), but on the other hand, neither is
>>> my web browser (Opera), and I don't have these problems with it.
>>>
>>> Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org were installed with the official
>>> deb files. The LibreOffice version that came with Ubuntu 12.04 was
>>> carefully removed before installing what I have now.
>>>
>>> Thoughts? Anyone else saw this?
>>>
>>> Packard Bell Easy Note MX66 laptop, made in November 2006.
>>> 2.0 GiB RAM, Genuine Intel® CPU T2050 @ 1.60GHz × 2.
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (32 bits)
>>> Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-41-generic-pae
>>>
>>> nVIDIA Driver Version: 304.88
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Pitonyak
>> My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
>> Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
>>
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