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Subject: RE: [PUBLIC TALK] request for input for my talk "Apache OpenOffice -
 project status and release 4.0"
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:25:14 -0700
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Rory,

You raise a contrast that I would like to understand.

I don't understand the claim you make and how it is substantiated.

What Desktop Publishing programs are you thinking of, with regard to =
their use in producing non-critical, non-professional document layout?  =
I'm having trouble understanding what that means and, if there is a =
decreased need for Desktop Publishing software as essential to such =
efforts, how making that easier is particularly unique to Apache =
OpenOffice. =20

It seems to me, based on how long I have used word-processing software =
(and the occasional desktop-publishing product), since I began personal =
computing in 1979, that there have been alternatives to DTP for making =
attractive but non-critical documents without the aid of professionals =
for a very long time.  Ways to have more quality easily seems to be part =
of steady improvement that tracks the increased power of personal =
computers.

I think I'm missing something.

 - Dennis =20

-----Original Message-----
From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarrwrk@iol.ie]=20
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 09:18
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PUBLIC TALK] request for input for my talk "Apache =
OpenOffice - project status and release 4.0"

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:11:40 +0100
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <orwittmann@googlemail.com> wrote:

[ ... ]
> I will give a talk on a German conference about Apache OpenOffice in =
mid=20
> April 2013 in Berlin. I had already mentioned this German conference =
in=20
> an earlier post [1]. The conference is about free office suite, mainly =

> focused on Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice, and the OpenDocument =
file=20
> format.
> The title of my talk is "Apache OpenOffice - project status and =
release=20
> 4.0".
>=20
> In the first part I will present the continuation of the project at=20
> Apache and the actual project status. Some general remarks on the=20
> project structure and processes ("The Apache Way") will be included, I =

> think. The main purpose of this part is to demonstrate how well=20
> OpenOffice evolves at Apache since the change the project had suffered =

> in mid 2011. This will strengthen the confidence/trust in the project.
>=20
> The second part is about our planned 4.0 release. The intention of =
this=20
> part is to show how active the development of the product and the=20
> project is by talking about the changes and improvements we had =
made/are=20
> making for our planned 4.0 release.
>=20
>=20
> Now my _big_ request to you _all_.
> I am only one person and I have more or less a developer view on the=20
> product and the project. E.g., I am not active on all our mailing =
lists.=20
> On certain areas I have no deep insight.
> Thus, please provide me with information about the stuff that is going =

> on in your area of interest.
> What are the key milestones which you had achieved for the project?
> What are your contributions for our coming 4.0 release?
> [If wanted I can name the corresponding contributor(s) in the=20
> presentation document.]
> The talk's length is 45 min. (30 min talk, 15 min Q&A) - I am able to=20
> fill the presentation with the stuff I know, but I strongly believe =
that=20
> in this case certain important stuff and details about the=20
> product/project will missing.
[ ... ]

You should mention the powerful style-based formatting and layout =
facilities of AOO and how it has largely superceded Desk Top Publishing =
applications for non critical/non professional document layout.  Most =
users/authors are now able to undertake their own layout and produce =
competent looking documents using AOO.

--=20
Rory O'Farrell <ofarrwrk@iol.ie>

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