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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: [PUBLIC TALK] request for input for my talk "Apache OpenOffice - project status and release 4.0"
Date Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:25:14 GMT

You raise a contrast that I would like to understand.

I don't understand the claim you make and how it is substantiated.

What Desktop Publishing programs are you thinking of, with regard to their use in producing
non-critical, non-professional document layout?  I'm having trouble understanding what that
means and, if there is a decreased need for Desktop Publishing software as essential to such
efforts, how making that easier is particularly unique to Apache OpenOffice.  

It seems to me, based on how long I have used word-processing software (and the occasional
desktop-publishing product), since I began personal computing in 1979, that there have been
alternatives to DTP for making attractive but non-critical documents without the aid of professionals
for a very long time.  Ways to have more quality easily seems to be part of steady improvement
that tracks the increased power of personal computers.

I think I'm missing something.

 - Dennis  

-----Original Message-----
From: Rory O'Farrell [] 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 09:18
Subject: Re: [PUBLIC TALK] request for input for my talk "Apache OpenOffice - project status
and release 4.0"

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:11:40 +0100
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <> wrote:

[ ... ]
> I will give a talk on a German conference about Apache OpenOffice in mid 
> April 2013 in Berlin. I had already mentioned this German conference in 
> an earlier post [1]. The conference is about free office suite, mainly 
> focused on Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice, and the OpenDocument file 
> format.
> The title of my talk is "Apache OpenOffice - project status and release 
> 4.0".
> In the first part I will present the continuation of the project at 
> Apache and the actual project status. Some general remarks on the 
> project structure and processes ("The Apache Way") will be included, I 
> think. The main purpose of this part is to demonstrate how well 
> OpenOffice evolves at Apache since the change the project had suffered 
> in mid 2011. This will strengthen the confidence/trust in the project.
> The second part is about our planned 4.0 release. The intention of this 
> part is to show how active the development of the product and the 
> project is by talking about the changes and improvements we had made/are 
> making for our planned 4.0 release.
> Now my _big_ request to you _all_.
> I am only one person and I have more or less a developer view on the 
> product and the project. E.g., I am not active on all our mailing lists. 
> On certain areas I have no deep insight.
> Thus, please provide me with information about the stuff that is going 
> on in your area of interest.
> What are the key milestones which you had achieved for the project?
> What are your contributions for our coming 4.0 release?
> [If wanted I can name the corresponding contributor(s) in the 
> presentation document.]
> The talk's length is 45 min. (30 min talk, 15 min Q&A) - I am able to 
> fill the presentation with the stuff I know, but I strongly believe that 
> in this case certain important stuff and details about the 
> product/project will missing.
[ ... ]

You should mention the powerful style-based formatting and layout facilities of AOO and how
it has largely superceded Desk Top Publishing applications for non critical/non professional
document layout.  Most users/authors are now able to undertake their own layout and produce
competent looking documents using AOO.

Rory O'Farrell <>

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