Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-openoffice-doc-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-doc-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C54CF19491 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2165 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jul 2016 17:28:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-doc-archive@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 2123 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jul 2016 17:28:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact doc-help@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: doc@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list doc@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 2112 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jul 2016 17:28:17 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:28:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id DCDF6C2F29 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:28:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.988 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.988 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx2-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vhvS4y1v8k4P for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx2-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx2-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 868A25F22C for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bR0id-0005vP-UY for doc@openoffice.apache.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:28:08 +0200 Received: from c-73-149-57-217.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([73.149.57.217]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:28:07 +0200 Received: from keith.mckenna by c-73-149-57-217.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:28:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: doc@openoffice.apache.org From: "Keith N. McKenna" Subject: Re: Is it time to shut down this effort? Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:27:42 -0400 Lines: 82 Message-ID: References: <008701d1e500$fea71ae0$fbf550a0$@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HXm8kl9CStk1ErM5s1D2pSoQjE8oTec5K" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-73-149-57-217.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40 In-Reply-To: <008701d1e500$fea71ae0$fbf550a0$@acm.org> --HXm8kl9CStk1ErM5s1D2pSoQjE8oTec5K Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="lPMnv3MSnRX0e7d3iXUhISWeQFU4jMg1i" From: "Keith N. McKenna" Newsgroups: g,m,a,n,e,.,c,o,m,p,.,a,p,a,c,h,e,.,o,p,e,n,o,f,f,i,c,e,.,d,o,c Subject: Re: Is it time to shut down this effort? References: <008701d1e500$fea71ae0$fbf550a0$@acm.org> In-Reply-To: <008701d1e500$fea71ae0$fbf550a0$@acm.org> --lPMnv3MSnRX0e7d3iXUhISWeQFU4jMg1i Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > [BCC dev@] >=20 > Please be specific about what you mean by "this effort." >=20 > The current documentation approach is to develop materials on the Media= Wiki. This wiki is typical in that it operates like an open-source proje= ct with commit then review (although there is a nice "Discuss" feature). >=20 > If you mean the particular approach to reviewing and approving pages an= d having a kind of editor-in-chief, please say so. >=20 > - Dennis >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mckenna@comcast.net] >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 20:36 >> To: doc@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Is it time to shut down this effort? >> >> My answer to the question posed in the tittle of this e-mail >> unfortunately is yes. We have been moving by fits and starts for almos= t >> 4 years and have very little to show for it. I would like to hear the >> opinions of others though. >> >> Keith >> Dennis; This mailing list came into existence to coordinate the development of documentation for Version 4 under the Apache License. There never was and was never intended to be an editor-in-chief. For a lot of reasons this particular effort has produced a very limited amount of usable documentation. My personal feeling is that it should be recognized that it is not doing what it was intended to and either retired or reconstituted in a different form. I think that my personal position is pretty obvious from my original message and I wanted to solicit comment from other participants. Regards Keith --lPMnv3MSnRX0e7d3iXUhISWeQFU4jMg1i-- --HXm8kl9CStk1ErM5s1D2pSoQjE8oTec5K Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with SeaMonkey - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXk6kXAAoJEH0fu5UhGmBC69gH/iRagZHPqcH+MccWvvQtB1Jw 7c1qtWPZ9aGd9sdl7J7dDah5kyzsgQd0uo77LTTF2A9Z+enbvrCArqzvcwTRNuIX f8bwk1+rlo7MV07q3T6dbh8E6sgMX7R/OlWyJCjzH0G6tWl2QFmIZXAUVK6BYAyh 9ipG2zyMXm489PAwy2XzWza80KaTB2AzcayBFJfdHkYGHZtgcVIcovX9SgEQHk/U kF6n3ZJaMpxh3DGkfylXl9N6xMV3ub7aYMMnNbguk+xS8SRs0KgL0hZdsiOgQuYk sDDiWYqPfql3xsq1ejIIfLWlQAPF6dKz5hw8Sy9IYZpBuE4QctMGcuNJliaOEWs= =KMjC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HXm8kl9CStk1ErM5s1D2pSoQjE8oTec5K--