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From "Keith N. McKenna" <>
Subject Re: Where are we with the documentation?
Date Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:25:15 GMT
Rania Hanna wrote:
> Quick thought, though I am new here:
> Have a wiki or some sort of spreadsheet that lists everything that needs to
> get done, as well as those who say they will get this or that done in xx
> amount of time. So sort of like a timesheet, where people state what they
> did, as in, what they contributed, and when, and "sign off" on their own
> work. I realize you have a tracking doc, and I'm not sure how that works,
> as I never saw it.
> But maybe someone can compile an action-item list, and then people can
> decide and take ownership of a specific project, and we could then
> implement that spreadsheet. I think setting goals is a good thing, like
> have some sort of goal graph, that lists, percentage-wise, how far we have
> come, how far we need to go. And have that for the project as a whole, and
> also for individuals, in terms of how much they say they will do, and how
> much they actually do.
> I think key is providing some internal motivations. Mostly, though,
> organization is needed, so that people know what needs to be done, and in
> what priority.
> Maybe a person can volunteer as organizer/manager, and that's their role
> only.
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Alexandro Colorado <> wrote:
>> I agree and would like to propose a roadmap that people can follow (hands
>> off) and they can continue ongoing work. emphasizing that if they want to
>> contribute, they need to self-taught and self-do without waiting for
>> approval. We just dont have enough resources for a delegating and approving
>> changes.
>> I would want to also understand the better work that we can do in promoting
>> the documentation project to the rest of the community. Gamification is a
>> way, or just using the blog and social network to recruit technical
>> writters.
>> I also want to know if there is any other idea that can help this project
>> get off the ground. And finally build a report for the next apache cycle on
>> what has been achieved on this project.
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Keith N. McKenna <
>>> wrote:
>>> Greetings All;
>>> Just checked the archives and it is just shy of 2.5 years since this
>>> list was started and what do we have to show for it? Basically nothing.
>>> There are pieces and sections of guides in various stages of completion,
>>> but nothing anywhere near ready for final publication.
>>> There has been some work done on various parts of the Guide, but no real
>>> discussion here. We have a tracking document that is supposed to be used
>>> so all members of the team know where things are and what is needed but
>>> it rarely gets used. All of this has to beg the question where are we
>>> with documentation; do we really want to have the documentation done "in
>>> house"; and if we do is the process we started 2+ years ago still the
>>> correct way to go?
>>> I for one firmly believe that not having up to date user documentation
>>> reflects poorly on the project as a whole. It is time for us to take a
>>> hard look at what we want to do and come together and try to move
>>> forward either with what we have or by starting over and re-defining
>>> what we want and the process to get there. Either that our we have to
>>> decide that we are just not in a position to this piece and fold. I hope
>>> that it is not the later.
>>> Respectfully
>>> Keith N. McKenna
>> --
>> Alexandro Colorado
>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
>> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9  5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614

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