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From Yuzhen Fan <fanyuz...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Installation guide are asked to review and update when fix bug 124599
Date Wed, 16 Apr 2014 06:32:27 GMT
Hi All,

An US editor gives feedback and tweaks wording as below, I am going to
update installation instructions [1] with these words:

*Upgrading OpenOffice for Windows*

If the current version is 3.x, you can remove it before you upgrade to
version 4.x, or keep it and install 4.x as an additional version.

1. In the Installation Wizard, do one of the following:

- To remove 3.x and install 4.x, select *Remove all older product versions*.
The startup group item, desktop icon, and entry in the Add/Remove Programs
list will all refer to 4.x.
- To have both 3.x and 4.x on your computer, deselect *Remove all older
product versions*.  Each version will have its own startup group item,
desktop icon, and entry in the Add/Remove Programs list.

2. If the current version is 4.x, but is older than the point version that
you want to install (for example, you have 4.0.0 but want to install
4.0.1), the older version will be removed and the later one will be
installed. The startup group item, desktop icon, and entry in the
Add/Remove Programs list will all refer to the later version.

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview



On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Yuzhen Fan <fanyuzhen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Thank you all for valuable comments, I am contacting the native speaker
> for tweaking the wording.
> (Added doc@openoffice.apache.org in this mail thread)
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Yuzhen Fan <fanyuzhen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Pedro
>>
>> Per Juergen, "we won't release msp's because of some issues that we have
>> to solve first."
>>
>> So I think, we will not mention MSP in Installation guide although the
>> fix in situation 2) is
>> also included in the MSP. How do you think?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Pedro Lino <pedlino@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds perfect. Adding options (instead of assuming and deciding for the
>>> user) is always positive ;)
>>>
>>> Please make sure that the fix in situation 2) is also included in the MSP
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Yuzhen Fan <fanyuzhen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > Bug 124599 [2] is verified fixed in AOO 4.1.0 RC2, from current
>>> behaviors
>>> > and comments provided in this bug, the "expected behaviors" for
>>> upgrade on
>>> > Windows could be:
>>> >
>>> > 1. If the former version is 3.x, there will be a check box in
>>> Installation
>>> > Wizard providing the option to keep or remove the former version
>>> > - If select "Remove all older product versions", then 3.x will be
>>> removed
>>> > and 4.x will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon and 1
>>> entry
>>> > in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for 4.x
>>> > - If de-select "Remove all older product versions", then 4.x will be
>>> > installed with keeping 3.x, there will be 2 startup groups, 2 desktop
>>> icons
>>> > and 2 entries in the Add/Remove Programs list. These artifacts are one
>>> > suite for 3.x and the other suite for 4.x
>>> >
>>> > 2. If the former version is also 4.x, but older than current installing
>>> > one(e.g. install 4.1.0 over 4.0.0), then the older one will be removed
>>> and
>>> > the newer one will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon
>>> and 1
>>> > entry in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for the newer
>>> one.
>>> >
>>> > I think above behaviors are acceptable, I propose to update the
>>> > installation instructions [1] according those. Any comments, or any
>>> > objections?
>>> >
>>> > [1]
>>> >
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview
>>> > [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former
>>> > versions correctly
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Yuzhen Fan <fanyuzhen@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Hi,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The current installation instructions [1] (last updated on
>>> 2014-03-26)
>>> > > does
>>> > > > not differentiate the clean installation and upgrade installation
>>> for
>>> > > > Windows, thus it does not state the option to keep or delete the
>>> old
>>> > > > version for an upgrade installation.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I propose development update the installation instructions [1]
when
>>> > > submit
>>> > > > the fix to bug 124599 [2], to provide what is expected to see
with
>>> > > details
>>> > > > as below:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > 1. Upgrade from old version to relative new version (e.g. from
3.3
>>> to
>>> > > > 3.4.1, from 3.4.1 to 4.1.0, from 4.0.0 to 4.1.0, etc)
>>> > > > 2. Specify the different behavior/experience on all platforms
>>> (Windows,
>>> > > > Linux and Mac) - I do not see problems in the current instructions
>>> on
>>> > > Linux
>>> > > > and Mac, but need confirmation
>>> > > >
>>> > > > That is essential, because for testers we need this as criteria
for
>>> > > > testing, and for end users we need this as instructions for
>>> guiding.
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > You are right. We need to have our installations instructions
>>> accurate!
>>> > > Commmitters can directly edit this page and commit. Others can submit
>>> > > patches which we can review.  We could use help from all folks using
>>> our
>>> > > installation binaries on this.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > [1]
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview
>>> > > > [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize
>>> former
>>> > > > versions correctly
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --
>>> > > > Regards,
>>> > > > Yu Zhen
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > MzK
>>> > >
>>> > > "Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time,
>>> > >  for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect."
>>> > >                                        -- James Mason
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Yu Zhen
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Yu Zhen
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Yu Zhen
>



-- 
Regards,
Yu Zhen

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