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From Dave Barton ...@tasit.net>
Subject Re: Response to follow-up e-mails Was Re: Use of Ricardo's Status page.
Date Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:35:41 GMT

Today there are 67 subscribers to the docs list.

-------- Original Message  --------
From: Keith N. McKenna <keith.mckenna@comcast.net>
To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:30:38 -0400

> Dave Barton wrote:
>> -------- Original Message  --------
>> From: Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
>> To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:07:53 -0400
>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Keith N. McKenna
>>> <keith.mckenna@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Keith N. McKenna
>>>>> <keith.mckenna@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RGB ES wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/3/19 Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Keith N. McKenna
>>>>>>>> <keith.mckenna@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RGB ES wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we need more "hand holding" and guidance for new
>>>>>>>> volunteers.
>>>>>>>> Just pointing them to wiki is not enough.  With QA new volunteers
I
>>>>>>>> gave them specific assignments at first, e.g., review these
10 bug
>>>>>>>> reports.  I know it sounds odd to "assign" tasks to volunteers,
but
>>>>>>>> until they find their way around and self-assign tasks, this
is
>>>>>>>> a good
>>>>>>>> way for them to get started.  In return, with QA, I promised
to
>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>> their early work and give them feedback.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I wonder if we can come up with set of specific tasks,
of
>>>>>>>> various
>>>>>>>> sizes, from 1 to 8 hours, and specifically asked new volunteers
to
>>>>>>>> pick from that list?  It might work better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is certainly worth a try. We have hard virtually nothing from
>>>>>> many of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> volunteers since there initial contact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another thing would be for one of the moderators of the mailing list
>>>>> to cross reference current list subscribers with those who said they
>>>>> wanted to help.  Some of them may not have subscribed to the list.
>>>>> With the QA team I did that and then sent reminders to those who were
>>>>> not yet signed up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am not a moderator but if one can get the list and e-mail it to me
>>>> I will
>>>> do the cross check and send out the reminders.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK.  I'm not a moderator on this list either.  So who is?
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Any moderator can request the subscriber list by sending this commend
>>>>> from their moderator email address:   doc-list@openofice.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Although you should not share the list publicly, since it has
>>>>> everyone's email address, it would be interesting to know how many
>>>>> people are subscribed in total.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>
>> The list of 63 subscribers has been sent directly to Keith.
>>
>> Dave
>>
> On 2013-04-09 I sent the following reminder to all individuals that had
> expressed interest in working on documentation but had not yet signed up
> for the mailing list:
> 
>> You recently expressed interest in working on documentation for
>> ApacheOpenOffice. To date you have not signed up for our mailing list
>> which is
> where we discuss everything having to do with documentation for the
> project.
>>
>> Currently we are concentrating on user guides for Version 4.0 and we
> need help of all sorts for these.If you are still interested please
> subscribe to the mailing list by sending a blank e-mail to
> mailto:doc-subscribe@openoffice.apache.org and follow the instructions
> in the return email or for those that prefer using nntp instead set your
> news reader to news.gmane.org and subscribe to
> gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.doc and join us.
>>
>> Regards Keith McKenna
> 
> To date I have had no replies. If one of our moderators could check and
> see if we have had an increase from the 63 registered users that were on
> the list that Dave Barton sent me on 2013-03-26 it would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> It is to say the least disheartening to look at the status page and see
> the same few names as doing all the work both writing (Ricardo) and
> editing.
> 
> As a group we need to work towards finding ways to motivate others to
> become more active and to recruit new members, especially those with
> knowledge of Calc, Impress and Base who can start writing the Guides for
> those applications.
> 
> Regards
> Keith



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