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To: dev@openoffice.apache.org References: <68429d9a-06a2-66e9-1e33-25a84867e88f@gmail.com> <33E6493B-B887-4D91-8E0F-4A54D1DA4019@apache.org> <1effb4e6-8b3c-cd52-ce7e-1ee97fe45acd@gmail.com> <1688951527718137@web37j.yandex.ru> From: Kay Schenk Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=kay.schenk@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFd1mw4BEADAxXi9MYzEpXPwC5b7hnQC5I8W2n7aDrbsv9Zo1XLaM2TAsVANRIvcX2W7 jbgaXCUaZQGxstLRMDPYe9pXqi10zaJ3/bgHasUiWIBxqgP63JIERHi0vdf569BoXyBUV7VH TfF1z+dYo85njfg5jprRGycj6gb+6PA05sgWbjliQcGEhmP3Fq0p4r8/dzhZNIhrf60oQ8Gy ipciqRkyA3c50QTFkgoMkdv6cAC4mMYt9878p7oACAI0wVdXGfNIb1q5BwcWNePuFZjQ6M6b WRbGDSGgJq5ew+hJMfl1xdJKSE5YTv0CTPO8wNsaAPK7KpdXjtqjBLqGfXMok3lpDufT9mAo XJn3fWQebgrWpSkDBe1OAAzk+1oNC8w3KxmqJWOV/bhN6Ycj6nqbXglZzP2EsD9yOGKkVjRT /00kAcSrbNcUphe8qUjoUrohGoDR/1Sf//efSuZHBQ574uznGntfzrXw8boh+BG3nYb6rSf1 YYqqhKaaAusR3CjVhueTDi3xrzsqEYRTmZ76k5X62WJMP3k6y64rZz68F3vYkoFdiDylyveB 3AjGzoFWZym8wlM4GawnqxB/wx2lIEhggKXaOHbCmWIRSl48fRCRWM0TAgxLGDMpcNM8rQgA fmGCzztMq/gSMN/i8F9dNUTMJu2RP4dk2HXII9EMdz8OwsWF/QARAQABzSFLYXkgU2NoZW5r IDxrYXkuc2NoZW5rQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwX4EEwECACgFAld1mw4CGyMFCQlmAYAGCwkIBwMC BhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEKMsUD8eA0tPZfQP+wfHDi1BBknv8AIFAcc+hPtrSvhN PFiPh6HB9SX3cz66kbpelpWtbFGibb+VQpIypZcSOsa3JI8Rtlg1PKWdrT20XeUj635ercE1 db8CA2y09NjAwZvISWHjui6SoL6/VEcbO5MYgRdFVK6rrRZxEvQ+E0Gu5TntVIAZONvOJgJn QGFFHA2qfOE2X3TMLvUv79qyIneUdr8mcNRhBtP7D4lE0r4TMVlqj0o0VUeAQEEDZ251yQYl W8iYBjvBnjRWTvtOzQVcHahCRhhQqZCQM8j5hb28ZeX+O6IGKJ/5nSKla3JKXMJQsbiwqwYi 7gOszOFdp63tkl9TLiqWDyp38tVaBk0HLk3gGBzTJWGOowZvF2zTD2247hEZoXbiPQqcLzET HNjyItZs7ehDDWvrZmyM89n8yulTm9Td79k3EAxT+cVRGPXHcCv5i4u2zGBz7ceHeV2JdTxN Pi2sD/fcO/u42o3YGpcREGlkjKJc6peEWP9M2vgGPSRrbNUtgDX8uxDVw2p7Z6syxdmxoBuA 6bXGym9igF5TTGHjZw9DPBIxFAsgsY2hk7RFzfwhkFnhMR450rf1vnNzIUw8smyRTeBLUljc 74+g6HmB//JFiXdBI8Cck4/2E70Gq5zBSxtt+yfHh4+dAXewqxPNZc13/H7pbUl9yFV7qQ3U n3qCGz+TzsFNBFd1mw4BEADE9rFAcUmRiO3eMpcHw7qdpFy/YSYgOhscZCurEXgvitnhJsF/ C6Br61nTFMrlKH5fk1XuDYOjtUAjuzuKS2Cj6V0PLYqr2T8hZUcNjorjCjoc8IA1omEh/ea2 CVEPYIf0K733/IzAnFfdz1DKA+bTAMVz/6Y3Dn3Ah+u9fX4fiSx7MtLPgfi6jMtAdRGyP6GL wimwpjTWGfypaoIS9dWKpOCe1PlMc1sIyWxll44NWmixLQKuvww5DCUr0+7YMfWhcPYe2SQE upjQnEBhsPgKaBSAZNjJc8+qhJxhbgtxko2iQgEVWInjDBwZJny8SsIrKtM3rxHHADY/uToY Ux4PaN/XwFaasO8TgICqs9wMu2Nmm7BbQ7FY0XlIs5yX0p3Tl71tOZJfRkPl8u3ezj3jGY7r Kx0mWYdkyiPZEp/JwPpMV8ZSfOUyOGLo6bVBViubHN1OJHqEPpaQeDxSGJbWth5BNRzUZFE8 eG18iKkLLjvyWFChuZSvm4IU2EgPmBO26g2rjXyJeQEiGUfPC1XA3SbogG5lvwd4IrPXo3Ub 8fII+kgvPf3NK63g7wdGUK8MhUIm8no6lODv6bZ1QmJF90w0gv0zmQFvqZYMn25i/JeQ3DDm hetOX8b7vMiYG0Gx5wWltJcxNfNtSA53lBS5q1yny7TY/9YVDnpC3L6FjQARAQABwsFlBBgB AgAPBQJXdZsOAhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEKMsUD8eA0tPoRYP/0lHe+zH46vNE9s1oe10yRQ9c6VY mjqRfs/r0a/HlY5XEK3PkJv8uJcEoJ0i5n50Vfo0vh6MAm9svFuEb+HqTx3hAN1y+18zyaZJ SBhLf7RzTWTlyBKO1wo7kXIsNaLPVgDLJCw9o+ZyoXzbKMZEtCqbSdHrZT9Cjfl0mEtcPFDj BfxU4GwnL6ERe1v57bqTHlymFsI32qqOpFHwnljoKBL15Ggi+c12/a6+tQ5b3AtKgtVZjkbh CiEo7SHOjGDY9Jw5Tuf3QcdxUmdatRAzoLtnqlN4HmXBnEmr6vMpB+g7s8fiBdhyeHHzKh+y QEI6CehT52h/jyomQdyU9/mQ7YHAKPh0TZMRdXwyC51G3zTA5P5WEjHvqVXIJlldXaoBGJNp 1vxU2DpHwNqgFB/3VlqK8WhO9WuaehcW6nBug81rvr1TuWiuCx/b9ZRHRDrBL/92Tv3xM6UA f1R2fXCmluSNGBZViAmj0aZKyDF47gYj13slu0+xCPq+EbVtBUpNGIeLC9eTeoGIeY6O+NAm OQlHe+FUQ18aZnVufqATDJayMS/+PMHcDLPmOlNd5ZF0hPmCW8PErXBKigYDW2ytR//QZ2Xf DYVquuKmRI+iZTuwxkMnqsO6g1ndgj7zajZg+iUlSQtWiqrA74pt/DtOx3K44aTkbtLJ3rSI cVIDtCYC Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 09:52:36 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1688951527718137@web37j.yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US On 05/30/2018 03:08 PM, Torokhov Sergey wrote: > > 28.05.2018, 20:19, "Kay Schenk" : > >> This is ONLY for Linux. So, how is multimedia "integrated" in AOO for >> Mac and Windows? Can someone point us to the applicable code areas for this? >> >> I have a feeling gstreamer was integrated long ago when no other >> multi-media standard/app for Linux existed. Now it seems VLC seems to >> the standard for the most part. (This is a dated web page but I think >> it's still a good reference: >> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMimeTypesAndApplications.html). >> Basically, we are supplying gstreamer as a multimedia app to Linux when >> maybe this isn't really needed. > The using of gstreamer multimedia backend of OpenOffice was anounced in Oracle OpenOffice.org 3.4 Beta > in April 2010 and the first release with it was the Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 in May 2012. > > Previously to play multimedia content in OpenOffice the Java Media Framework (JMF) was used > ( https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Java/Java_Media_Framework ). > The JMF wasn't updated since 2003 and supported too small amount of formats in contrast to gstreamer. Thank you for this information, it is useful. I understand the need for a standardized AV app in some ways, but, assuming an end user's preferred AV app supports a wide variety of formats, I think it would be better for AOO (in non-Win, non-Mac) implementations to try to determine the the end user's AV application, and use that rather than providing a new AV app. But...a much longer discussion not on this thread. -- ------------------------------------------ MzK "Less is MORE." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org