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From Dave Brondsema <d...@brondsema.net>
Subject Re: Templates Site "Access Denied"
Date Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:46:38 GMT
On 3/25/17 6:44 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Yes, a certificate would be the first step.
> 
> BTW:
> I noticed that the link to "Templates" on http://extensions.openoffice.org
> points to http://templates.services.openoffice.org instead of
> http://templates.openoffice.org.
> 
> I am not sure if these URL with .services should still be used...

Yeah, I expect we will 301 redirect to drop .services from the URL when we set
up the SSL certs

> Kind regards, Matthias
> 
> 
> Am 22.03.2017 um 19:56 schrieb Dave Brondsema:
>> On 3/22/17 2:35 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> As both the templates and the extensions site don't have SSL
>>> certificates I opened an issue with Apache Infra.
>>> They say, the sites point to Sourceforge and they can't do anything
>>> about it.
>>>
>>> So can SF add certificates to those sites and enable permanent
>>> redirection to HTTPS?
>> Yes I noticed this as well, and believe we can set that up.  It'll probably take
>> some Drupal work also, to make sure resources are all loaded over HTTPS to avoid
>> mixed content warnings, before we can force redirection to HTTPS.
>>
>>> Firefox (and other browsers) are beginning to warn users if they log
>>> into sites without encryption.
>>>
>>> Kind regards, Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 21.03.2017 um 03:37 schrieb Dave Brondsema:
>>>> On 3/20/17 3:09 PM, Marcus wrote:
>>>>> Am 20.03.2017 um 17:56 schrieb Dave Brondsema:
>>>>>> On 3/16/17 4:48 PM, Marcus wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 06.03.2017 um 19:25 schrieb Dave Brondsema:
>>>>>>>> On 3/5/17 4:38 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 2017-03-04 10:04 GMT+01:00 Marcus <marcus.mail@wtnet.de
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:marcus.mail@wtnet.de>>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Am 03.03.2017 <tel:03.03.2017> um 00:43 schrieb
Dave Brondsema:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         A few bits I missed addressing on my prior email:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                         I have been able to reproduce
the error simply by
>>>>>>>>>                         visiting the site and
>>>>>>>>>                         clicking on the name of any template,
using an
>>>>>>>>> incognito
>>>>>>>>>                         Chrome window on
>>>>>>>>>                         ChromeOS to ensure there are
no statefulness issues.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         I can't reproduce it like that.  The example
link errors out, but all
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>         templates I find just browsing around work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                         I've no access to the site so
can't investigate
>>>>>>>>> further.
>>>>>>>>>                         Can someone with
>>>>>>>>>                         admin rights investigate please?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                     as you know for sure we also have
no access to any
>>>>>>>>> webpages
>>>>>>>>>                     that are
>>>>>>>>>                     hosted by Sourceforge. So, we cannot
do anything here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                     I don't know if somebody ping'ed
already Sourceforge about
>>>>>>>>>                     this problem.
>>>>>>>>>                     But I'll do it here again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         This community should have access and should
be able to maintain the
>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>         SourceForge users "aooadmin" and "ipv6guru" are
admins of the
>>>>>>>>>         https://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-templates/
>>>>>>>>>         <https://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-templates/>
project which
>>>>>>>>>         corresponds to the
>>>>>>>>>         templates.openoffice.org <http://templates.openoffice.org>
site. 
>>>>>>>>> Others
>>>>>>>>>         can be added (ideally by those 2 users,
>>>>>>>>>         so we at SourceForge don't have verify identities).
 Documentation
>>>>>>>>> for web
>>>>>>>>>         hosting is at
>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Project%20Web%20Services/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Project%20Web%20Services/>
and
>>>>>>>>>         I
>>>>>>>>>         believe should work fine for the templates site,
although we have
>>>>>>>>> made a few
>>>>>>>>>         specific customizations compared to regular SourceForge
project web
>>>>>>>>> hosting.
>>>>>>>>>         Same goes for aoo-extensions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     OK, but I've no idea what to do to check and fix
such erros? I think we
>>>>>>>>>     still need some help in this case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave as you know in past we got that stuff done by a
contractor, as you
>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>> remember it's a Drupal application and the community
seems to lack the
>>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>>> expertise.
>>>>>>>>> If you have access to internal skilled resources it would
be great if
>>>>>>>>> SourceForge could provide help with that, as you can
see we're kind of stuck
>>>>>>>>> atm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, I will see if there's anyone here that can help out.
 It might not happen
>>>>>>>> very quickly though, and in general we support just the hosting
and not the
>>>>>>>> Drupal/PHP code.  But we want OpenOffice to keep on doing
great, so I'll see if
>>>>>>>> we can provide any extra help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who has an admin login to the templates site?  I think adding
more admins is
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> first step, so people can try to check the permissions &
metadata on the bad
>>>>>>>> template entries.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once someone starts to dig into the code, my general debugging
approach
>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>> to grep the codebase for "Access Denied" and "If you were
looking for a
>>>>>>>> Template, this means it is no longer available." etc to see
what triggers that
>>>>>>>> error message.  I also wonder if the codebase is in git anywhere?
>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so, whats up now? Is there any help you can offer? The problem
is not getting
>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> From my last email, I was hoping we could get an Drupal admin login
to the
>>>>>> templates site.  Who would have that?
>>>>> I need to lookup my passwords. Then I can login as admin.
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>> However, this wouldn't help. AFAIK we have nobody with Drupal knowledge.
>>>> I think it will be useful to see what we can see from the Drupal admin side.
>>>> Once you're in, could you set my user as an admin?  (username "dave-brondsema"
>>>> id 241648) Then I can start the process of looking around in there.
>>>>
>>>>> You could tell us what to look for and what to do in cases A, B, C, etc.
But
>>>>> then it's better when you (SourceForge) do it yourself right away. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also I'd like to see a better example of where this is failing. 
The example
>>>>>> http://templates.openoffice.org/en/node/8382 is the only one I've
seen and could
>>>>>> simply mean that template is gone.  What's an example of seeing a
template on
>>>>>> the site and then not being able to see its details & download
it?
>>>>> I don't know of any other better examples. But IMHO there were some mails
with
>>>>> links in the last days posted to this mailing list. I'm sure they can
serve as
>>>>> examples. Please have a look for them.
>>>> I see two forwarded from Martin Groenescheij.  They seem to be end-user issues.
>>>> I am able to access and download the template files just fine.  (Sorting
&
>>>> filtering does have some small usability issues)
>>>>
>>>> An email from Feb 22 reports the problem, but without enough details.
>>>>
>>>> One from Feb 22, mentions a "cBrainpower1.3" template. On
>>>> http://openofficeapps.weebly.com/english-downloads.html there is a link to
>>>> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/template/cbrainpower-13-creativ-learning-made
>>>> which has an error message, so that's one I can check in the admin area or
database.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
> 



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