Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id A702C200B85 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 07:04:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 90967160ACE; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 05:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id D3E19160AC4 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 07:04:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 47769 invoked by uid 500); 1 Sep 2016 05:04:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 47750 invoked by uid 99); 1 Sep 2016 05:04:23 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 05:04:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id E6088C19C2 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 05:04:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.996 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.996 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HK_NAME_DR=0.998, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx2-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P7bqFqHaePoC for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 05:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.dasr.de (mail.dasr.de [217.69.77.164]) by mx2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTP id D1FD75F1B8 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 05:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip-84-119-85-90.unity-media.net ([84.119.85.90] helo=[192.168.2.40]) by mail.dasr.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1bfKAi-00048G-R5 for dev@openoffice.apache.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 05:04:16 +0000 Subject: Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO To: dev@openoffice.apache.org References: <003501d1dbb7$b23daea0$16b90be0$@acm.org> <011501d203a4$73f52050$5bdf60f0$@acm.org> <85730f01-5ae8-270a-e9b4-0f362da9405d@gmail.com> <004c01d203d9$4772ad10$d6580730$@acm.org> From: "Dr. Michael Stehmann" X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <57C7B6CC.6070207@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 07:04:12 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="P4Shda7Cr0sHGcOpXETgulUh3XpEfK7aI" archived-at: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 05:04:40 -0000 --P4Shda7Cr0sHGcOpXETgulUh3XpEfK7aI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 01.09.2016 um 00:59 schrieb Simon Phipps: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:44 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton < > dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote: >=20 >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: toki [mailto:toki.kantoor@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:30 >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO >>> >>> On 31/08/2016 16:26, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >>> >> I think that is the case because downstream producers, who get the sup= port >> business, contribute to their upstream framework or source-code distri= butor. >> >> What indication is there that any of that is working for Apache >> OpenOffice? Maybe if we stopped shipping binaries? How would that wo= rk >> for the individuals who seem to dominate our download consumption? >=20 >=20 > Since the "downstream" producers seem better equipped to deliver signed= and > vulnerability-corrected binaries to non-specialist consumers on a timel= y > schedule, maybe delegating downloads to them would be a good option for= the > project? Stopping shipping binaries would cause some negative effect for our project, so it might be an option, but not best one. Binaries made by our community are essential for our QA. Without them we stand "with empty hands" in the public with negative effects for our brand and image. Supporting our users by community members would break down. So the impact for the improvement of our commity would be tremendous, if we "delegate" this tasks to a third party. Kind regards Michael --P4Shda7Cr0sHGcOpXETgulUh3XpEfK7aI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlfHttEACgkQB4PwVyFoz0cQTwCcCFXBYxe4lQyRB/w5zmPE89NB 1lcAn0Tt2QFsw7AOc8NLCw570mCrCvlF =M163 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --P4Shda7Cr0sHGcOpXETgulUh3XpEfK7aI--