Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D5D200B78 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2016 15:59:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 25CE3160AAC; Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E4B0160AAB for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2016 15:59:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 47264 invoked by uid 500); 2 Sep 2016 13:59:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 47249 invoked by uid 99); 2 Sep 2016 13:59:48 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 13:59:48 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id E6190C1F33 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:59:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.651 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.651 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.652] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx2-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OUz2nGC1b2JD for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.163]) by mx2-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx2-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 4DF225F3F3 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2016 13:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-po-13v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.237]) by resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id fp0DbxEPcGkXBfp0PbYhGd; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 13:59:41 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:143:c501:efa0:d132:200b:ce12:8331] ([IPv6:2601:143:c501:efa0:d132:200b:ce12:8331]) by resomta-po-13v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id fp0PbiNTe2CKffp0Pbwgf8; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 13:59:41 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long) From: Jim Jagielski In-Reply-To: <91F22CE5CF3C4081946D62578190B735@Esprimo7935> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:59:40 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4F79FBFD-6EBA-4AF2-B522-B8EE28C6FB99@jaguNET.com> References: <008d01d204a9$bd37caa0$37a75fe0$@apache.org> <81029122-B6E8-4C72-A7AD-7B40E5A934ED@jaguNET.com> <91F22CE5CF3C4081946D62578190B735@Esprimo7935> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfLNugSq8dD0x3huW/CFBTviJrMkwaoQm3ws9lSF3UiWAhx0CpNarddwUhXcg881EdsqwpOhD2ZhTuAhV00iCPv3c+BoUXg9otSsaXOn6MvDodLzhEDit jon+97pnyzAIFmCuEZerdeSfWuns0E4ibUo3/PgM+AEOk1CCCHVteDR3KwmjZA5MesqdAkCKE4Js6zwYmzLK1UD3feGhXvq3ptI= archived-at: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 13:59:50 -0000 > On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:48 AM, J=F6rg Schmidt = wrote: >=20 >> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anwalt@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de]=20= >=20 >> Patricia, we are still discussing. We are balancing reasons,=20 >> advantages >> and disadvantages, for different solutions. There is no decision = made. >>=20 >> And more and more I believe, it was a good idea to start that=20 >> discussion >> on a public list. So everything is transparent. >>=20 >> I like the debian Social Contract and point 3 is: >>=20 >> "We will not hide problems" >=20 > This is a reasonable approach for a project which is surrounded by = friends.=20 >=20 > It is not necessarily a good concept for a project that has been = cleaved by third > parties and whose aim is to destroy it. When the TDF had only had the = intention to > make OpenOffice independent of Oracle, they would never have attacked = AOO. >=20 >=20 sorry, but I can't agree with that. Will self-serving trolls contort what we say here to promote their own agendas? Sure. What we want is the *truth* to be out there, so when these trolls spew their FUD, the reality of the situation is there for others to read, and understand, and grok. At the very least, if what you say is true, we can claim the high-ground. We should strive for that no matter what.= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org