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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?
Date Sun, 04 Sep 2016 16:43:05 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.mail@wtnet.de]
> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 02:09
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?
> 
> Am 09/04/2016 01:40 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org]
> >> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:18
> >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:pats@acm.org]
> >>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 09:26
> >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?
> > [ ... ]
> >> Something we can easily do already [as well], and we have not acted
> on
> >> it, is add the ASF Help Wanted widget in a number of places.  We can
> >> then populate the database the Widget uses with specific requests for
> >> assistance on Apache OpenOffice.  The benefit is that (1) these can
> be
> >> focused tasks, (2) the Help Wanted will also be visible in other
> places
> >> among the Help Wanted from other projects, and (3) the Help Wanted
> item
> >> provides enough properties about skill requirements and nature of the
> >> task, as well as a link to details that help the interested volunteer
> >> find details enough to decide how to contribute.
> >>
> >> Addition of the help-wanted widget can be done immediately.
> >>
> >> I have another promised activity for this US Holiday weekend, but I
> will
> >> dig into that too.
> > [orcmid]
> >
> > I figured out how to add the widget to the orange box on the Download
> page.  It does not fit will with that.
> 
> you don't need to figure this out on your own. You can ask me how it
> works. It would be much faster and more efficient. ;-)
> 
> > I think it is best to have the AOO Help Wanted Widget on a page of its
> own.
> 
> The widget points already to a webpage to its own [1]. We just need a
> point to this webpage and the text on the download page fits good for
> this purpose. We could add this on the main webpage, too.
> 
> Of course we can also think about changes to the "get-involved" webpage
> [1] to hightlight better the need for more devs.
> 
> > It could be linked to by other pages, where its list of help-wanted
> tasks can be lengthy.
> >
> > I am going to stop looking into that for now.
> 
> Sure, the idea behind the text can be changed how it should work or act
> to have a different effect. However, why do you think it is not working
> like it is now? Any points to reasons?
> 
> [1] http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
> 
[orcmid] 

I wanted to train myself and one way is to look at the code.  It helped me understand the
way that the localization is handled in the .js JavaScripts that the web site depends so much
on.  I wanted to discern the principles and then keep faith with them.

 1. With regard to the widget, I was able to add it to the Orange "Help Wanted" block on a
test version of the English/default download page (the only page that has it on the live site).
 The reason that I did not propose it is the widget does not look good that way.  A better
widget using the current source of the data would be needed.  That becomes a more-involved
dev-community activity and I was not prepared to go there.  Also, help-wanted widget is still
experimental and we might run into maintenance issues as there is more development of the
widget.

 2. The current widget (obtained from http://helpwanted.apache.org) can be customized to show
just "openoffice" items.  I added one to confirm that works.  However, it appears that the
widget does the equivalent of "show me everything" which is why it should be on a separate
page.  The list could become rather long.  

We could also have a page that works more like the helpwanted.apache.org page, but about Apache
openoffice only, adding a link to the helpwanted.a.o for folks who want to know about helpwanted-tasks
for all ASF projects.  Before we do any of that, we need to populate helpwanted.a.o with more
OpenOffice tasks.

 3. I did look at putting something on the current <http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html>
page.

Although it is right there in the link, I kept looking for it on openoffice.org.  My error.
 That explains why ooo-site does not have any get-involved/participate page with the "Diese
Seite in Deutsch" line and the sentence " Although many are content to make a small donation
to support Apache OpenOffice and the Apache Software Foundation (we appreciate every contribution),
some users want to get more involved and volunteer their time and expertise with the project."
 

Is this a hack on <http://www.openoffice.org> to break out of the localization model
and link "I want to participate in OpenOffice" to what we call the project site, <http://openoffice.apache.org>?
 It also creates a special island where certain kinds of task are recruited from the German
Language community, with a separate dev-de@ list.  That separation puzzles me.

 - Dennis


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