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From Kay Schenk <>
Subject Re: Putting Windows First ( was RE: null)
Date Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:52:49 GMT

On 07/13/2016 12:56 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> On 7/13/2016 10:38 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Damjan Jovanovic
>>> []
> ..
>>> By the way, AOO code and build process are very *nix-centric,
>>> leading to Windows being such a pain to develop for, that we would
>>> gain more by dropping Windows support, than by dropping all other
>>> platforms ;-).
>> [orcmid]
>> Yes.  I already made the point that, from the perspective of
>> developers, development of Windows is very contorted and development
>> for Linux is a pleasure.  It was done that way for the convenience of
>> Linux-oriented developers.  It creates an awful on-ramp for
>> cultivation of new developers.
>> The question: How does ceasing support for Windows serve the 87% of
>> our current user base?  The technical act is within the power of the
>> PMC to determine, and release managers could force the outcome. In my
>> estimation, the consequences would be quite terrible.
>> We may be "stuck between a rock and a hard place."
>>> Damjan
> I would like to suggest a way of squeezing out from between the rock
> and hard place, and getting more developers:
> Separate out the Windows build process. Pick one of the common IDE's,
> and create a project file that sets all environment variables for
> Windows. Get as close as possible to the step-by-step build
> instructions for Windows being:
> Check out the source from SVN.
> Open the project file in $IDE$.
> Build it.
> In particular, use of a UNIX-derived shell must not be required for
> Windows builds.
> In this vision, the core work would be done on Windows, using an IDE.
> There would still be a need for a small number of Linux etc. people to
> handle building for their environments, and to keep the Windows-based
> developers from building in unwarranted assumptions.

Patricia --

I think this approach was actually started as a Capstone Project in
2013. You might want to have a look at the information in:


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