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From Marcus <>
Subject Re: AOO Governance (was RE: Next release and gbuild)
Date Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:04:12 GMT
Am 03/18/2016 03:18 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
> When I was working I gave up some of my freedom to do what I wanted in
> exchange for being paid to do what other people told me.
> I retired when I had accumulated enough investments that the financial
> improvement from the money Sun was paying me no longer outweighed the
> benefit of being able to decide for myself what to do with my time. My
> 10 a.m. horseback riding lesson this morning will be far higher priority
> than OpenOffice debug.
> I do not see being a "Release Manager" as carrying any authority at all
> over others. I might need to persuade, suggest, beg, and plead, but I
> would not expect to be able to compel, not even to the limited extent I
> could when I was a project leader in industry.

exactly. There is no disciplinary power in the role of a release 
manager. It's more a role - instead of a job title - to make sure that a 
release will happen.

You can a) do all things alone, b) do some tasks together with a team or 
c) nearly nothing except to pull the strings to make sure there will be 
a release at all. I think you would prefer point b).

> If the term "Release Manager" is creating an idea of a job something
> like being a manager in industry, maybe we need a more realistic term
> such as "Keeper of the Release Checklist".

There is already one [1] in case you don't know yet.



> On 3/18/2016 5:20 AM, donaldupre . wrote:
>> In the same way management in your professional experience handled
>> disagreement, disrespect, waste, inefficiency etc. that sometimes happen
>> when people work together.
>> You did offer to learn to be a release manager, it means that some
>> sort of
>> "management" is needed?
>> How someone here suggested making a release without a manger is beyond
>> me...
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Patricia Shanahan <> wrote:
>>> I am really, really curious. How would you recommend the hypothetical
>>> AOO
>>> management hierarchy go about compelling me to do anything?
>>> On 3/17/2016 10:41 AM, donaldupre . wrote:
>>>> Not only it is possible to compel, it is imperative for a viable
>>>> project.
>>>> As Stalin once said, "When there's a person, there's a problem." :)

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