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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS][POLICY?] Lost Features When Saving to ODF
Date Mon, 08 Feb 2016 19:46:03 GMT

I share your disdain for rubber-stamp feature-loss warnings.  It arouses FUD and does not
help users, especially concerning their expectations for support of Microsoft formats.

This is apparently a tit-for-tat activity between Microsoft Office and the

The message that AOO uses is nearly a literal version of what the Microsoft Office software
puts up when a non-native Save is requested [;<).  So we mirror their worst feature.

It is interesting that when Microsoft Office documents have features that cannot be preserved
with full fidelity (i.e., uploading to OneDrive and accessing via Office Web or mobile application
versions) by MSO variants, there are specific warnings in the case of such recognized feature-loss
if the document is edited.

 - Dennis

PS: One of my dreams about interoperable use among standard formats and known profiles of
conformance would be to have a processor that actually identified the features that are not
preservable and allowed user review of the consequences before doing anything irreversible.
 And also finding ways to make things not so irreversible.  I said dream. It is probably beyond
my grasp and I doubt such a prospect could be grafted into AOO.  My thinking is that one would
have to architect and design for that from the very beginning.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patricia Shanahan []
> Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2016 15:00
> To:
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][POLICY?] Lost Features When Saving to ODF
> On 2/7/2016 11:51 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> ...
> > 3. Note that on saving to .xls, the rubber-stamp warning about
> > possible loss of features occurs, but in this case the feature is not
> > lost.  There is no such warning when the feature in its unsupported
> > form is transformed and saved as an .ods file.
> ...
> As an OpenOffice user, I find the rubber-stamp warning useless to the
> point of being annoying. I get it on the most vanilla text documents
> that do not, in practice, lose any features.
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