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From Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com>
Subject Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July
Date Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:39:29 GMT
I'd love to see a comparison with a half dozen other projects.
On Aug 29, 2015 02:42, "Marcus" <marcus.mail@wtnet.de> wrote:

> In any case this is too much traffic on the private mailing list.
>
> I would understand Dennis' mail as a wake-up call how much it is currently
> and that there is an urgent need to turn down the number of mails.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> Am 08/28/2015 11:58 PM, schrieb Phillip Rhodes:
>
>> So what, if anything, should we take away from this?  My (completely
>> superficial, naive and uninformed) feeling is that that is a LOT of
>> traffic
>> on the "private" list.  But maybe not.  Anyway, is the idea here that
>> there
>> should be less traffic on that list? More? The same?
>>
>> I have to admit, I've been pretty dormant for a long-time, so I'm a little
>> out of touch with what's going on (gone on) here, but you have me
>> intrigued
>> with this.
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton<orcmid@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  From an AOO PMC Member,
>>>
>>> I have compiled a high-level traffic analysis of discussion activity on
>>> the OpenOffice PMC private@ oo.a.o list.  These are *statistics* and
>>> noisy ones at that.  I am looking for trends that are good-enough at this
>>> level of precision.  It is in the nature of private@ that message
>>> content
>>> and even the topics must be held in confidence.
>>>
>>> This report of gross metrics is for the community's appraisal of current
>>> state and later progress.  The movement of discussions to the community
>>> when the confidentiality requirements for PMC discussion do not apply
>>> should be seen in movements at this level.  Further reports over the
>>> course
>>> of the year may provide an useful indicator.
>>>
>>> OVERALL PRIVATE MESSAGE TRAFFIC
>>>
>>> This is a breakdown of the traffic in the 212 days from January through
>>> July, 2015, by role of the sender.
>>>
>>>          2015 | Private List Messages
>>>     thru July | PMC  ASF  Other   All
>>>
>>>        Totals  1145  182     31  1358
>>>       Senders    22   23     23    68
>>>    Per sender  52.0 7.9 1.3 20.0
>>>     (average)
>>>       Per day   5.4  0.9    0.1   6.4
>>>
>>> Of all the messages sent,
>>>
>>>    84% are by members of the PMC,
>>>    16% are by other ASF participants, and
>>>    17% are by others.
>>>
>>> The ASF participants include members of Apache Infrastructure, Officers
>>> of
>>> the ASF, and other ASF Members and staff who make posts to the private
>>> list.  The "Other" senders are members of the public and non-PMC Apache
>>> OpenOffice contributors that raise questions or provide information to
>>> the
>>> PMC via private@.
>>>
>>> For the 1145 messages from the 22 PMC members who posted to the list so
>>> far this year,
>>>
>>>    49% of the messages are from the three
>>>        PMC members who were the most vocal
>>>        in the studied period.
>>>    75% of the messages are from the seven
>>>        most vocal.
>>>    91% were from the most vocal 11 of the
>>>        22 PMC members that posted.
>>>
>>> I confess to being one of those top three posters.
>>>
>>>
>>> NUMBER OF SUBJECTS AND AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION
>>>
>>> A review of the same message archives, for January - July, 2015, tallied
>>>
>>>       168 subjects discussed across 1341 posts,
>>>           about 0.8 new topics per day.
>>>             The variance of 17 from the first tally
>>>           is negligible and will not be corrected.
>>>           The raw data is available for auditing
>>>           by the PMC.
>>>
>>>       8.0 is the average number of messages on a
>>>           single subject
>>>
>>>        5% is the portion of the overall messages
>>>           used in the longest thread, one with
>>>           73 messages
>>>
>>>       50% of the messages are on the 20 longest
>>>           discussion threads.  The shortest thread
>>>           in that group has 18 messages.
>>>
>>>       75% of the messages are on the 50 longest
>>>           discussions.  The shortest threads in
>>>           that group have 8 messages.
>>>
>>>       90% of the messages are on the 84 longest
>>>           discussions (i.e., half of the
>>>           threads).  The shortest threads in
>>>           that group have 4 messages each.
>>>
>>>       The remaining 10% consists of 84 threads
>>>       having 3, 2, and 1 messages each.
>>>
>>> This does not speak to the quality or the necessity of these messages and
>>> any particular thread.  The PMC has detailed supporting data.
>>>
>>>          [end of report]
>>>
>>
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