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From Pedro Giffuni <>
Subject Re: Third-Party ALv2 Dependencies (RE: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion ...)
Date Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:16:27 GMT
Hi again Dennis;

I stopped using AOO's bugzilla after an unconfortable incident.

Since the PMC was notified twice about it, I will just make it public.
You should take a look at:



On 30/08/2015 10:57 p.m., Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> Hi Dennis;
> I find your posting somewhat confusing as the topic would indicate 
> something
> different from the body of the message.
> I agree in observation 5 that the ASF (actually I can only speak 
> partially for AOO)
> does *not* police the use of ALv2 content by third parties. This, of 
> course, doesn't
> mean that third parties are at liberty of ignoring the license.
> Considering your personal remark are you referring to clause 4 (a) and 
> (d)? IANAL
> and that's someone else's job at the ASF, but I didn't find those in 
> the root tree
> of a certain third party, which is where I would expect them to be. I 
> do think there
> is at least a willing effort to deceive the public opinion by hiding 
> the presence of
> ALv2 code and it's extent.
> Back to the topic of ALv2 dependencies. I think you are aware that I 
> notified
> the PMC repeatedly about licensing concerns. I hope the situation is 
> solved
> before the next release as it may be an issue. I personally don't plan to
> interfere with the release process at all, but I think the PMC 
> understands
> that unlike third parties, IP issues are taken very seriously for ASF 
> releases.
> Regards,
> Pedro.

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