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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:26:43 +0100
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Subject: Re: OOo4Kids & OOoLight Status
From: jan i <jani@apache.org>
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On Tuesday, February 17, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
wrote:

> +1,
>
> Nice thinking, Guy.
>
> Perhaps a bit more work and resource to make this customizable, and a
> great idea.  This also matters for enterprise deployments and such.  That,
> along with customized template sets can be very important in certain areas
> of application.
>
> We still have the original resource problem to solve, yet it is nice to
> see thoughtful definition taking place.

Do we (AOO) have to solve that, or is it the project (being downstream to
AOO) ?

To me it sounds like a downstream adaptation.

rgds
jan i

>
>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guy Waterval [mailto:waterval.guy@gmail.com <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 13:00
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: OOo4Kids & OOoLight Status
>
> Hi Jan,
> Hi all,
>
> 2015-02-16 10:26 GMT+01:00 jan i <jani@apache.org <javascript:;>>:
>
> >
> > In order to keep it (as AOO) we. need to know
> > - is the brand registred and eho has the current right to the brand
> > - can we as AOO provide resources to keep this alive
> >
> > I think it is a good downstream project, but I do not currently see a
> > possibility to add this to the AOO project.
> >
>
> Hi Jan,
> Hi all,
>
> Many thanks for the proposition. But I think (personal opinion, I don't
> speak for educoo) that it would be a waste of ressources, as we don't
> actually have the needed dev capacity to assist in such a process. For me,
> the best way is to maintain the availability of OOoLight and OOo4Kids (they
> are always usable), but the users should be informed (for transparency
> purpose) that their developpement is currently discontinued due to a lack
> of developers.
>
> Regarding a possible personalization of the UI of AOO to fit it better for
> Kids or users with low needs, here are some thoughts. Please, consider that
> it is not a request but only "some thoughts" to enhance the use of profiles
> and get again more flexibility to AOO. All this can perfectly be managed
> manually.
>
> Reading the posts of jonathon and Dennis, perhaps a possible way :
>
> Command : Tools > Options > Appearance > Select UI-Profile ... opens the
> Dialogbox "Available UI-Profiles".
>
> Dialogbox "Available UI-Profiles"
> Lists the existing profiles from the "AOO_4.1\User\OpenOffice4\" directory
> (Windows example) and allows to activate, delete or export one of them or
> allows to add a new one.
> Button "Add a new Profile ..." : opens the dialogbox "Add a new Profile" to
> add a new Profile to the list.
> Button "Activate profile" :
> - renames the actual activ profile "user" and restores its original name.
> - renames the choosen profile as "user" and stores its original name in a
> memory.
> - restarts AOO with the choosen profile.
> Button "Cancel" to quit.
> Button "Delete" : to suppress a selected profile after advertisement ("Do
> you really want to suppress the sected profile ?").
> Button "Export" : creates a zip archive of the selected profile in the list
> to can save and share it with other users, or send a corrupt profile for
> expertise.
> Button "Help" : displays an information text about what is a profile and
> what is stored in it. It's not so clear for most users (me included). An
> opportunity to clarify definitely this question.
>
> Dialogbox "Add a new UI Profile"
> Allows to install a new Profile in the "AOO_4.1\User\OpenOffice4\"
> directory
> - Button "Browse" near an editing zone to search the new Profile (.zip
> file) to install.
> - Button "OK" : unzip the choosen .zip file and installs the resultant
> directory to the  "AOO_4.1\User\OpenOffice4\" directory. Returns to the
> dialogbox "Available UI-Profiles" and actualizes the list.
> - Button "Cancel" to quit and return to the dialogbox "Available
> UI-Profiles" without modifications.
>
> Possible interests :
> - more flexibility with a single product. No reduction of size, but most
> computers currently support AOO without any problem.
> - adaptable UI in a school context or for users with low needs.
> - for advanced users, possibility to create more sophisticated profiles
> (integrating sets of special templates or galleries, etc. ) for specific
> purposes (i.e. lawyers, translators, specific technical needs),  and
> shareable with other colleagues.
>
> Some questions about that :
> - Interest or not, from a marketing point of view, for instance?
> - Feasability : easy or not easy task ? Cost of ressources acceptable or
> not ?Unreachable objectiv ?
> - Implementation directly in the AOO code obligatory or possible
> installation through an  extension "ChangeProfile" ?
> - Standard profiles could be created inside the users mailing list, after
> discussion, to select the commands to integrate by default in the the
> different standard levels. Certainly not a trivial work to select the
> commands. After that, an advanced user can always refine the standard
> profiles or replace them with its own personal profiles.
>
> Thank you to have read this piece of bad English up to the end ;-)
>
> Regards
> --
> gw
>
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