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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Date Tue, 06 May 2014 00:24:44 GMT
On 5 May 2014 20:00, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.mail@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 05/05/2014 01:29 AM, schrieb sebb:
>
>> On 4 May 2014 17:37, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-)
>>>
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
>>>
>>> What was done:
>>>
>>> - Grey box:
>>>
>>>    - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness.
>>
>> +1
>>>
>>>    - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data.
>>
>> +1
>>>
>>>    - The information link has now a (i) icon.
>>
>>
>> Looks better, but the hover text has gone. It was useful...
>
>
> I get the text "What is the difference between full installation and
> language pack?" when hovering the mouse over the (i) icon.
> Have you done something different?

I get hover text for the download and report links, but not for the (i).
This applies to Firefox and Opera 12.17 on WinXP, and Firefox on OS X
(Mavericks)
Chrome shows the (i) hover, but the download and report texts are
missing - I only see the (i) and the link icon.
I do see the download hovers if the mouse is moved over the blank
space to the left of the (i)
The drop-downs are correctly preset, but there is no info in the light
green box.
This is true for Chrome on WinXP and OS/X, and for Safari and Opera 20.0 on OS/X
[I think Opera 20 is based on Chrome]

IE8/WinXP is completely broken; no content in the drop-down boxes and
no download or report text.

So none of the Win/XP or OS/X browsers are fully working for me.

>
>>>    - Added a "Report broken link" - pointing to the debug webpage.
>>
>>
>> I clicked on the report button.
>> The test page that appears needs to have some introductory text to
>> tell users what to do.
>
>
> Yes, like I wrote right below. ;-) For the moment it's just to see that
> something is working.
>
>
>>>      The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an
>>>      additional text link.
>>>      (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as
>>>      report function.)
>>>    - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
>>>      Now it looks more clean.
>>>
>>> - Green box:
>>>
>>>    - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
>>>      Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only.
>>>
>>> - Links:
>>>
>>>    - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines.
>>>    - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes.
>>>    - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed.
>>>
>>
>> I think the download links could be more descriptive (there's plenty
>> of room) - e.g.
>>
>> Download full installation package (including language pack)
>> and
>> Download language add-on pack only
>
>
> This is were I need some help *what* to write - text or button or both or
> something else ...
> So, thanks for your suggestion.
>
>
>> As an aside, the information page about language packs could perhaps
>> describe how dictionaries compare with language packs. Do language
>> packs include any dictionaries? Or do they just include the text
>> strings used in the application?
>> I found the page quite difficult to follow.
>
>
> OK, I will improve the text.
>
>
>>> What is not yet working:
>>>
>>> - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0.
>>>    It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every
>>>    available build for every release in the past.
>>> - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe
>>>    it's indeed no longer necessary?
>>>
>>>    What do you think?
>>
>>
>> The reset button could be dropped.
>
>
> OK
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>>> What are the next steps:
>>>
>>> - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases.
>>> - Improve the styling of the both download links.
>>> - Combine the both green boxes.
>>>
>>> - And further suggestions from you.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for testing. :-)
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>>
>>>> I've done some further work.
>>>>
>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
>>>>
>>>> What is working:
>>>>
>>>> - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack.
>>>> - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack.
>>>> - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get
>>>> to a help text for "full install vs. langpack".
>>>> - Some release data is shown like in the green box.
>>>>
>>>> What is not yet working:
>>>>
>>>> - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how
>>>> it could work (likely).
>>>>
>>>> - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working.
>>>>
>>>> What are the next steps:
>>>>
>>>> - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right
>>>> hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if
>>>> not needed here, etc.
>>>>
>>>> In general, this should result in a clean-up.
>>>>
>>>> - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases.
>>>>
>>>> After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your
>>>> further comments and suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot for your input.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice
>>>>> order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the
>>>>> most need more time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0
>>>>> release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free
>>>>> days are coming. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
>>>>>> problem:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
>>>>>> - Downloading a different file than the offered is not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Via the big table on the "other.html" is now easy to maintain for
us
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main
>>>>>> download webpage:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't look too close to look&  feel - sure the grey color
is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down
>>>>>> boxes
>>>>>> and the then created links below them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?
>>>>>> Or do you have complete different thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>
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