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[174.116.252.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ie20sm5031018igb.10.2014.04.24.21.26.22 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.0\)) Subject: Re: Native Language and Localization pages on cwiki might benefit from some organization From: =?windows-1252?Q?Louis_Su=E1rez-Potts?= In-Reply-To: <5359941F.6070109@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 00:26:20 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8E8A01C8-94C9-461D-A279-5884E86DC77A@gmail.com> References: <5359941F.6070109@gmail.com> To: "dev@openoffice.apache.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 24 Apr 2014, at 18:45, Kay Schenk wrote: > Currently, we have these four areas/page on the cwiki -- >=20 > Native Language Projects (under Project Planning) > Localization Plan (under Project Planning) > Localization Planning (top level) > Localization Volunteers (top level) >=20 > Can someone more involved with this area take a look at these and > perhaps combine under one heading? >=20 > Thanks for taking a look. >=20 > --=20 > =97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97= =97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97 > MzK >=20 I had a long and tedious answer. But here's a better tack, a question. What is the desired outcome? (now more of the tedium) To provide useful information for naive (or fresh) users wanting to = contribute but unsure of how to apply themselves? Then, if we want to keep with the native-lang projects, and with their = basic remit, or raison d'=EAtre, they would be a starting place for = volunteers and offer them basic info. about Apache, localization, local = promotion (as in local events, etc.), and so on. But, unless they wanted = to be (see below), they'd not be formally in charge of planning l10n = work. But would any one be? At Sun, the answer would be, Yes. And I'm = sure the major stakeholders such as IBM also have their plans. But = that's not relevant here.=20 But let's imagine that there is a plan for l10n, a strategy of sorts, = that depends really on resources. In that case, wouldn't it be the l10n = projects or project that determines the process for QA, etc.? The = native-lang would overlap, at least insofar as it could claim = responsibility for localizations. (This is what I had organized, at any = rate, in OOo land.) About the only place where I can see urgency for a kind of plan is in QA = and in meeting release dates. There would be urgency simply to sync with = the global marketing deadlines. We had a lot of problems with this in = OOo days and there is no simple or even wholly satisfying solution.=20 louis --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org