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From Alexandro Colorado <...@oooes.org>
Subject Re: Quote requested-Open Office 3
Date Mon, 14 Apr 2014 22:59:29 GMT
On 4/14/14, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 04/14/2014 03:27 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>> Some comments about the website, the right column goes way too far
>> down. I recomend to limit the recent blogpost. Also display the RSS
>> subscription link.
>>
>> I also suggest to have a more of a more dynamic view of the site. The
>> headers could be done like a dropdown menu slider of information.
>> Something usually done for FAQ here is an example:
>> http://davidwalsh.name/demo/fancy-faqs-jquery.php
>>
>> This way the column will be able to display more information as needed
>> without taking all the space.
>>
>> Another suggestion is to embrace new design paradigms such as landing
>> page, which usually makes the content display as one big slide'down'
>> show.
>>
>> The GIT manual shows an example of it:
>> http://rogerdudler.github.io/git-guide/
>>
>> Since more people are on tablets and mobiles, this allow to view the
>> information secuentially within one column.
>>
>> There are CSS frameworks like LESS or SASS that allow you to use a
>> more responsive use of stylesheets and detect whenever is on a tablet
>> or a traditional laptop.
>>
>> I can make some commits to the page and show what can be done with these.
>
> I can certainly understand your comments.  We would certainly welcome
> design changes.  Please continue to use the "test" area for this, or
> create a new subarea under "test".
>
> For now, I was just trying to bring more emphasis to the "free" nature
> of our software so no big redesign was in mind. It's likely the rest of
> the links on the page won't work because they're relative to the home page.

Since you mentioned there was a redesign going on those are my
comments to prevent a huge ammount of whitespace being generated.


> Please keep in mind we don't use PHP though -- just html, javascript and
> css.
This is JQuery. Please review the tutorial here:
http://davidwalsh.name/jquery-sliders

>
>
>
>
>>
>> On 4/14/14, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/14/2014 12:45 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 04/14/2014 09:57 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2014-04-14, at 12:46, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts
>>>>>> <luispo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, On 2014-04-14, at 11:33, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 04/14/2014 07:20 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2014-04-14, at 09:39, Samer Mansour <samer519@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Odd, I thought this was pretty obvious:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/why/why_sme.html  Its
only 2
>>>>>>>>>> clicks into the site. I want to learn more ->
Businesses,
>>>>>>>>>> third bullet down.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This may be a product of our localized sites not
existing /
>>>>>>>>>> being updated. This person was inquiring for a Malaysian
>>>>>>>>>> business, not sure if the person inquiring was also
from
>>>>>>>>>> Malaysia.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Samer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Rob Weir
>>>>>>>>>> <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This seems to be an FAQ item:  What are commercial
terms
>>>>>>>>>>> for AOO? Where is a good place to put this FAQ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Being obvious, stating the repeated—then stating it
again—is
>>>>>>>>> no proof against the wilfully oblivious poster who feels
>>>>>>>>> compelled to correspond personally with seeming humans
to
>>>>>>>>> obtain requisite legal permissions; in fact, it may be
>>>>>>>>> legally required to get an actual reply from the copyright
>>>>>>>>> holder that commercial usage of this free software is
>>>>>>>>> permitted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At least, that was my experience long long ago.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having a FAQ, as we did at Sun, helped--but only for
this we
>>>>>>>>> envisioned being like us. In the end, just spending time
at
>>>>>>>>> night with the outlier questions seemed most expeditious.
>>>>>>>>> louis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe it would help to include an additional question on
the "I
>>>>>>>> want to learn more about OpenOffice" topic on the home page
of
>>>>>>>> the website -- "What is the cost for licenses?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or something similar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -1. A link to FAQ might do the trick. But how many queries of
>>>>>>> this sort (clueless) do we actually get? Not that many, yes?
I
>>>>>>> would rather we keep our website as clean and direct as possible,
>>>>>>> and invite people to contribute, yes, and to distribute, but
>>>>>>> given *why* people come to the site, the simpler the better.
>>>>>>> Analogues: Mozilla, for one but one could also point to other
>>>>>>> open source apps that are commodified, e.g., Drupal,
>>>>>>> https://drupal.org/. (Drupal's site is clearly not meant for
the
>>>>>>> naive user, however.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, we've had a few of these in the last month or so,
>>>>>> variations on "May I use OpenOffice commercially", "May I
>>>>>> pre-install OpenOffice on hardware that I'm distributing", and "I'm
>>>>>> a central buying authority and I have paperwork to fill out on all
>>>>>> the software my customer uses".   We're dealing in these cases with
>>>>>> bureaucrats, not familiar with open source software.  If there is
>>>>>> not a box in their form for open source they might not know what
to
>>>>>> do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Egad. You mean, we *don't* have that sort of language already? I
>>>>> figured we'd retained that and other clarifications from OOo days'
>>>>> FAQ, not all of which related to Sun/Oracle or the licenses used. (I
>>>>> helped write or edit most of the faq and maintained them). The faq
>>>>> are still there, in svn, last I checked.
>>>>>
>>>>> But anyway, we used to have language stating what you just put. It
>>>>> worked—for those who read it and got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Louis
>>>>
>>>> Here's the "overview" FAQ page.
>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/faq.html
>>>>
>>>> I honestly don't know right at the moment what it's linked from (I will
>>>> check). Which of these items do you consider most beneficial?
>>>>
>>>> Right now, the WHY page seems to me the most straightforward way to get
>>>> the right information to folks. I'll work on a better "teaser" for it
>>>> from the home page today in a test area so we can take a look and
>>>> evaluate.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK, FYI -- take a look at home page mockup at:
>>>
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/test/
>>>
>>> I also added more details to the WHY page.
>>>
>>> When we hone in on what we want to do about a revised FAQ, of course, we
>>> should link to that.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I doubt they'll find on their own whatever page we put this info
>>>>>> in, but it would be a time saver just to be able to point them to
>>>>>> it next time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -louis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Jain, Rahul
>>>>>>>>>>> <Rahul.Jain@softwareone.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Team,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please respond to our mail on urgent basis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Global Vendor & Publisher Management
*Sent:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:52 PM *To:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'marketing-subscribe@openoffice.apache.org'
*Subject:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> FW: Quote requested-Open Office 3 *Importance:*
High
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are waiting for your response.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Global Vendor & Publisher Management
*Sent:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:09 PM *To:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'marketing-subscribe@openoffice.apache.org'
*Subject:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> FW: Quote requested-Open Office 3 *Importance:*
High
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are waiting for your response.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Global Vendor & Publisher Management
*Sent:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday, April 8, 2014 4:33 PM *To:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'marketing-subscribe@openoffice.apache.org'
*Subject:*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote requested-Open Office 3 *Importance:*
High
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Team,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have an end user ‘Stamford College’
interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>> below mentioned license for their environment
in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Malaysia. They have reached out to SoftwareONE
Malaysia
>>>>>>>>>>>> to see if we were able to procure this software
for
>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> SoftwareONE has earlier also has done business
with you
>>>>>>>>>>>> and we request
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> to please provide the below details for this
request:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sku No.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Item Description*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Qty*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *List Price*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *(per user)*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Currency*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Language Code*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Operating System*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Version*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Reseller Discount*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *(in %)*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Customer Discount*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *(if applicable)*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Office 3(Educational prices)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 Year Maintenance (Mandatory/ Optional)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 Years Maintenance (Mandatory/ Optional)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note: Please specify what all is included
in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maintenance and if Maintenance is Recurring
or not.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bill-to-SWO Location: SWO *Malaysia
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Deploy-to-Customer Location: *Malaysia
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We also request you to please share the reseller
>>>>>>>>>>>> pricelist mentioning the reseller discount
and price
>>>>>>>>>>>> list validity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindly mention your terms and conditions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Price Validity
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Payment Terms
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Delivery Time
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Freight Charges
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Process of placing order
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxes
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> EULA link
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Downgrade rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please also confirm whether the product is
available
>>>>>>>>>>>> *per user/ per server*?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your time and attention and
I look
>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to your prompt response on this matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I can be of further assistance, please
feel free to
>>>>>>>>>>>> contact me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rahul Jain
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Global Procurement Team
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cid:image001.jpg@01CCB2FE.5C377F40]<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.softwareone.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> MzK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing." -- Helen
>>>>>>>> Keller
>>>>>>>>
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>>>
>>> "Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing."
>>>                                  -- Helen Keller
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>
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