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From "Marcus (OOo)" <marcus.m...@wtnet.de>
Subject Re: [RELEASE][DISCUSS] How to download AOO 4.1.0 Beta?
Date Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:24:40 GMT
Am 02/18/2014 02:05 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>
>> Am 02/15/2014 11:37 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>
>>   On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   Am 02/14/2014 10:47 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>>>
>>>>    Am 02/14/2014 10:32 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   As this is our first beta release at Apache, I would like to clarify
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> things before it's maybe too late to change the facts and to
prepare
>>>>>>> webpages:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Target group
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is intended to be downloaded for the general public, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Hosting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are planning to host the files at Sourceforge, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. File names:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course the file names of the install files have to show a
>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>> compared to the general release files. Suggestion:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Beta_Win_x86_install.exe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *If* there is a need to publish another round, it could be extended
>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>> number like:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Beta2_Win_x86_install.exe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. Directory structure:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it OK to expect to use the same dir structure like we have
>>>>>>> currently for
>>>>>>> 4.0.1?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   The above makes sense to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    5. Download webpage:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it OK to expect to offer the download on our main download
webpage?
>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If yes, I can build up a download offer like we have for the
green
>>>>>>> box. To
>>>>>>> ease the download as best as possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   I would not make this the default download option for users.
We still
>>>>>> want most users to download AOO 4.0.1. So keep the first box on
>>>>>> /download.html as it is now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe a yellow box (yellow == caution) with language that makes it
>>>>>> clear that this is beta and gives the URL for reporting bugs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think I was not clear in my wording. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course the current 4.0.1 should not be effected in any way.
>>>>>
>>>>> With "ease the download as best as possible" I meant to do the same like
>>>>> we have for the green box but of course with a different color and text.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Were you thinking of a language/platform switch logic for the beta?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or just a link to a "beta_other.html" page with a table of links?
If
>>>>>> we do the table, then we would have room on the same page to give
a
>>>>>> prominent warning, a link to BZ, Release Notes, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I thought about the one-click-download we have already. Then of course
a
>>>>> "beta-other.html" is also needed and your suggestion makes absolutely
>>>>> sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> It could be a box somewhere below the green box. Or - as Kay mentioned
-
>>>>> a separate webpage.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I've added a quick version of how it could look like on the same download
>>>> webpage:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html
>>>>
>>>> - The first yellow box is for the download when the Beta release is
>>>> available. Of course the links are not yet working - but with link name
>>>> and
>>>> title you should get an first impression.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This looks good, and, given the wording, shouldn't cause confusion.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>   - The second one is a little teaser to show when is it coming. With a link
>>>> to the AOO blog - in case of if we want to blog about the upcoming Beta
>>>> release.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> not sure about needing this.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe we want to push the Beta release somehow. On the download webpage
>> this could help to point the attention to something that is coming soon.
>
>
> Well, OK, I see your point, although the "beta" is supposed to be I just
> assumed we would use normal channels when we were ready with this -- I
> think the end of Feb is slated -- banner on website home page,
> "announcements" e-mail, social channels. Again, it will be a "voted"
> release. I think the only think that will remarkably distinguish it from a
> "production" release is it's a more formal way to get feedback from users
> before production.

That's all good. However, to have a little hint like "4.1.0 coming soon" 
on the download webpage is IMHO very valueable. When I remember right 
it's one of the most visited webpages on the entire AOO website.

However, it's just a suggestion. Let's see what time will request.

Marcus



> Juergen has proposed a new date for the  "beta" to Feb. 28...I will change
> this on the wiki
>
> http://markmail.org/message/5kn5mk2qndjircqm
>
>
>>
>>   PS:
>>>> The green box is still for the Mac OS X test:
>>>> - download AOO 4.1.0 if 10.7 or newer is recognized in browser
>>>> - download AOO 4.0.1 if 10.6 or older is recognized in browser
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> not for me! :) Still wants to give me Linux.
>>>
>>
>> You need to browse with MacOS to the webpage. With other OS's it's just
>> the normal behavior.
>>
>>
>> Marcus

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