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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format?
Date Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:57:17 GMT
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Armin Le Grand <Armin.Le.Grand@me.com>
>> wrote:
>> >     Hi Rob,
>> >
>> >
>> > On 27.09.2013 14:50, Rob Weir wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> My guess is that the TM are not converted to path. Font diven logos
>> could
>> >>> be unstable across different renders engine.
>> >>> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> And we still get many visitors using older browsers, even I.E. 6.   So
>> >> I'd recommend using a rasterized version of the logo on the website or
>> >> anywhere else we expect random users to visit.  There are ways of
>> >> having both SVG and raster images, but if we're not seeing consistent
>> >> SVG rendering then it would be safer to just render via Inkscape and
>> >> use that.
>> >
>> >
>> > There is a way to have a uncritical SVG version - just convert all text
>> to
>> > polygons first (and use absolute polygon paths, e.g. in inkscape). That
>> > version would be safe since it would not use any font references, only
>> > graphics (polygons). Relying on font rendering in SVG does simply not
>> work
>> > for multiple different systems, versions of these and even evtl.
>> different
>> > languages and installed fonts.
>> >
>>
>> That might fix this one issue, but what about older browsers like I.E.
>> 6?   Will the logo render perfectly everywhere?  We have challenges
>> getting even HTML and Javascript to work right everywhere.   I don't
>> think we want to risk having our brand image rendering poorly.  We've
>> gone 12 years with a raster logo on the website.  It works.
>>
>
> I think you are confusing the render on the browser with using this as a
> web design element. SVG have been around for ages, the fact that this user
> asked for a vectorized version (to use for whatever reason) and he happen
> to notice an issue on the browser, doesnt mean his intentions is to put it
> on the page.
>

It is a reasonable assumption that the mention of the rendering on the
browser was not unrelated.

> That said, I strongly think we should switch to SVG, natively, is much
> smaller, and more open.
>

PNG = ISO/IEC 15948.  So it is an open standard as well.  As for
encouraging the propagation of our logo in an easily reusable vector
format, I don't agree with that.  I think we should keep the source to
the logo rather controlled and make raster versions of it available
for approved purposes.

-Rob

> There are also many fallback libraries like svg.js and modernizr for older
> browser. IE6 > 1% of the market. I think we have bigger issues that are not
> working on the site than 1% of the visits.
>



>
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> > Sincerely,
>> >     Armin
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Sent from my Nokia N900
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri Sep 27 04:11:33 2013 David Gerard <dgerard@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 27 September 2013 09:23, Jörg Schmidt <joesch@j-m-schmidt.de>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> But a note:
>> >>>>> The "M" in "TM" is shown cut off and the representation of "TM"
is
>> >>>>> different in Internet Explorer and Firefox, once serifs, once
without
>> >>>>> serifs, at an official logo should not be.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Display artifact in Firefox. It's fine in Inkscape or on Wikimedia
>> >>>> Commons:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aoo4-main-tm-logo-rgb.svg
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - d.
>> >>>>
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> Alexandro Colorado
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