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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Another test of the download page on Browsershots.com
Date Thu, 05 Sep 2013 20:20:23 GMT
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.mail@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 09/05/2013 12:20 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 09/04/2013 10:47 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
>>>> http://browsershots.org/http://www.openoffice.org/download/
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure anyone else can read that.  It might be tied to a cookie.
>>>>    But I ran a test to render the download page on 135 browser/os
>>>> combinations.  It returns a PNG screenshot for each rendering.  I
>>>> looked for which combinations did not render the green download box.
>>>>
>>>> There were 5 failures.  Two I don't think we care about:
>>>>
>>>> Dillo 3.0.2 / Debian 6.0 (squeeze)
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> Kazehakase 0.5.8 / Debian 6.0 (squeeze)
>>>>
>>>> And 3 that we should care about:
>>>>
>>>> MSIE 5.5 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)
>>>>
>>>> MSIE 6.0 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)
>>>>
>>>> MSIE 7.0 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't agree here. Why do we have to support stone-old browsers? Because
>>> they are available on a browser testing website? Come on. ;-)
>>>
>>
>> I'm concerned with the error, since it it impacts the more modern IE 6 and
>> 7.
>>
>> Looking at visits to our website over the past month I see this many
>> users:
>>
>> IE 10 -- 857,499
>> IE 9 -- 250,591
>> IE 8 -- 420,215
>> IE 7 -- 69,914
>> IE 6 -- 27,172
>> IE 5.5 -- 69
>>
>> So we're still getting nearly 100K visits/month from these older IE
>> versions.
>
>
> The 69 are not really impressive. But 27,000+ for MSIE 6 is surprising.
>
>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_5
>>>
>>> It's old, MS is no longer supporting it, so IMHO it's done. Nearly the
>>> same
>>> for 6.0.
>>>
>>
>> Right.  But here is a common scenario.  You need to reinstall Windows
>> on a machine.  Say it is XP or Vista.  Both are supported today, but
>> both have older browsers by default.  Of course, the first thing you
>> do on a new machine is run the Windows Updates.  But in parallel with
>> that you are downloading other software you need, Acrobat Reader, anti
>> virus, 7-Zip, Notepad++, etc.,  and Apache OpenOffice.   So you might
>> end up with IE 8 in the end, after all the patches are applied.  But
>> you start your work with an earlier version,
>
>
> I would expect that these people first get the basics up-to-date, then other
> applications.
>
>
>>>> The IE versions all give the same script error:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, if all browsers show the same error then a fix could get back
>>> all 3
>>> into life at the same time.
>>>
>>
>> That makes sense.
>
>
> Yes, let's concentrate on the error.
>
>
>>>> Line 330, Char 1, Code 0, Expected identifier, string or number
>>>>
>>>> This is an odd place for an error, since that appears to be in the
>>>> middle of the commented out block for beta releases.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, if you search in the "index.html" which indeed doesn't make sense.
>>>
>>> When looking into "download.js" then you are in the middle of the
>>> "getFilesize()" function. But I've no idea what the problematic point
>>> could
>>> be there.
>>>
>>
>> I wonder if it could be
>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/release_matrix.js?  Could it be a
>> coincidence that that file is exactly 329 lines long and the error is
>> claimed to be in line 330?  Maybe that unnecessary comma at the end of
>> line 328 is the issue?
>
>
> Hm, and what about "languages.js"? It has also a semicolon at the end but
> the file has only 108 lines. In the "index.html" it will be imported before
> the "release_matrix.js" (I don't know if this really the case) but there is
> no hint for error.
>
> Anyway, let's try. In the test area:
>
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html
>
> I've committed the deletion of the characters in both files. I think we need
> to wait another 24h until we are allowed to use Browsershots.org again,
> right? - At least this is my experience.
>

I don't know if that restriction is per client IP address or per host,
but we're blocked either way, because of robots.txt on staging:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/robots.txt

But if it is OK to publish those changes we should be able to run
another test now.


-Rob




>
> Marcus
>
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