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From J├╝rgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: 4.0.1 release and distribution.
Date Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:12:59 GMT
Hi,

sorry for hijacking this thread but independent of the mirror discussion
and future setup constructs we have to provide the bits for our upcoming
AOO 4.0.1.

We do that by uploading first in our home on people and from there to
dist. Currently the upload to people is incredibly slow (30-100K/sec).
Any ideas why it is so slow, I believe it was faster.

Once the upload is complete, the vote finished etc. the files have to be
copied to dist. How should we do that now? We need everything there in
place to allow SF to resync the bits.


Juergen


On 9/16/13 2:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Henk P. Penning <penning@uu.nl> wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:19:32 +0200
>>> From: Andrea Pescetti <pescetti@apache.org>
>>> To: Henk P. Penning <penning@uu.nl>
>>> Cc: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: 4.0.1 release and distribution.
>>
>>
>>> Everything was OK in the 4.0 case.
>>
>>
>>   No. Regarding the mirrors, it was not ok.
>>
>>   Fact : 4.0.1 will be put on the mirrors in 4-5 days, adding some
>>          languages every day. That is a technical constraint.
>>
>>   Fact : if AOO announces "too soon", /all/ mirrors will be incomplete.
>>
>>   I'm not discussing here, or looking for a compromise ; I'm telling
>>   you how it is.
>>
>>   AOO can either "do it right" (by waiting a few more days), or not.
>>
> 
> My impression was the only mandatory part of a release was the source
> tarballs and associated signatures and hashes.  These are few and
> small and should not require special handling.
> 
> The "convenience binaries" are optional in an Apache release.  (Some
> even argue that they are not part of the release at all.)  We
> predominately publish these binaries via SourceForge.  Very few get
> these from the Apache mirrors.  But we did receive several requests
> after the 4.0 release to push these binaries onto the mirrors.  (We
> receive even more requests to put them our as BitTorrents)
> 
> I'm hoping that there is some way that we can avoid a secondary
> distribution mechanism from causing a delay in our primary
> distribution mechanism.
> 
> Maybe we can resolve this on the website?  Don't list links to the ASF
> mirrors at initial release.  Just give the SourceForge links.  Then
> after 4-5 days, after we've verified replication, we modify the
> website to also point to the ASF mirrors?
> 
> This gives four stages:
> 
> Stage 1:  Distribute source tarballs, hashes and signatures to Apache
> mirrors.  Wait the usual 24 hours.  In parallel replicate the binaries
> over to SourceForge.
> 
> Stage 2: After the Apache mirrors and SourceForge have their files,
> then we announce.  Website only links to Apache mirrors for source and
> hash/signatures.  Release announcement happens now.
> 
> Stage 3:  We then push out the binaries to the Apache mirrors.  We
> don't start this earlier because we want to prioritize the replication
> of the source, hashes and signatures.
> 
> Stage 4:  After 4-5 days we update website to point to Apache mirrors
> as alternate download site for binaries.
> 
> Would that work?
> 
> -Rob
> 
>>
>>>   Andrea.
>>
>>
>>   Regards,
>>
>>   Henk Penning
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------   _
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>> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penning@uu.nl     \_/
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