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From janI <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Unnecesary filestructure on images
Date Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:05:25 GMT
On Aug 12, 2013 3:25 PM, "Rob Weir" <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org>
wrote:
> >> > I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has
been
> >> > some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of
clean up
> >> > work to be done.
> >> >
> >> > For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos
> >> > folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to
identify it
> >> > between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected,
the
> >> > current name is unecessary long.
> >> >
> >> > Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png<
> >>
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Right.  That work is incomplete.  I checked it in originally, after
> >> the logo vote, so we could start working on the product integration
> >> immediately.  But note that the above logo is not the one we actually
> >> used in AOO 4.0 !!
> >>
> >> The one we actually used is this one:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_Inkscape_kg.svg
> >>
> >> This was Chris R's contest logo with some minor technical changes.
> >> Kevin G. used this and generated the PNG/JPG files for AOO 4.0, which
> >> I helped check in.
> >>
> >> My intent was to take that SVG and rename it to "master-logo-40.svg"
> >>
> >
> > Again I think we do need a convention for a "logo.svg" as opposed to
> > ending with a logo-30.svg logo-40.svg logo-50.svg. An just incrementally
> > replace with the future logos as we update the SVG.
> >
>
> Here's the complication:   The old logos are still relevant some some
> purposes.  For example, the PMC receives ongoing requests to approve
> use of the old OpenOffice.org logo.  Why would that happen?  Often it
> is a request by publishers who are making an e-book version of an
> older print book.  If their original request did not include the
> e-book rights then they come back to us (and owners of every other
> image they use) to request additional permissions.
>
> So it may be possible, going forward, to store logos as SVN revisions
> under the same name.  But we cannot retroactively do this with
> pre-Apache logos.  And even if we could, this is harder for users of
> the logo to access.  It is much easier to have something like
> logo-330.svg available via HTTP.
>
> Of course you can have a hybrid approach:
>
> 1) When a new logo is introduced, svn copy the old one into a
> /old-logos directory with a new descriptive name.  This preserves the
> version history.
>
> 2) New logo then is checked in as a new revision of logo-master.svg.

or do as I am used to

new logo is checked in as
logo-master.png
and
logo-4.x.png

this way we have history and actual logo. and most important the links
never change.

rgds
jan i
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
>
> >
> >
> >> or something clean like that.  However, I have not had any luck
> >> getting this logo to load into Inkscape or Adobe Illustrator.  I get
> >> errors.  And I have not had any luck getting Kevin to send a version
> >> that will load.
> >>
> >> So we're stuck right now with a logo that does load into Inkscape, but
> >> is slightly different than the one we used in AOO 4.0.
> >>
> >
> >> > At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think
the
> >> > webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the
files
> >> are
> >> > updated without having different versions laying arround. Over this
> >> > example, ooo-logo.png and
> >> > AOO4_website_logo.png<
> >>
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=log
> >> >exist.
> >> >
> >> > All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become
> >> > incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as
> >> author,
> >> > version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the
> >> > filename.  Likewise to take the time to look for the source of the
image,
> >> > since there is an SVG/ folder to link the source of them, and
finally if
> >> > there are different images (sizes) to have a common convention.
> >> >
> >>
> >> A more logical naming scheme would be good, I agree.  But this has
> >> been waiting for resolution of which SVG we should actually be using.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >>
> >> > If you want to review the images please go here:
> >> >
> >>
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Alexandro Colorado
> >> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> >> > http://www.openoffice.org
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > http://www.openoffice.org
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