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From janI <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: MWiki is Missing Key Navigation and Apache Trademark information.
Date Sun, 21 Jul 2013 14:28:04 GMT
On 21 July 2013 16:25, janI <jani@apache.org> wrote:

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>
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> On 21 July 2013 16:03, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 12:07 AM, janI wrote:
>>
>> > On 21 July 2013 03:34, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> Hi MWiki,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The MWiki is missing a few key items:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> See: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> That is guidance for  the "project website".  That website is
>> >>> http://openoffice.apache.org, yes?
>> >>
>> >> This is policy for project sites. The Mwiki is a project site and the
>> >> target for a feather link is mandated to be www.apache.org and not an
>> >> internal wiki page that says nothing much about Apache.
>> >>
>> >
>> > @dave, I do agree with you that this is guideline that should be
>> followed,
>> > however I have NOT removed the feather, and when I look at the css
>> before I
>> > started doing maintenance I cannot see.
>> >
>> > Can anyone remember if it has ever been there, and advice where it was ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> Of course, the project also works with several other websites, from
>> >>> www.openoffice.org to Bugzilla to CWiki to Forums to Blogs to MWiki
>> to
>> >>> Extensions and Templates.  If we think these rules apply to all
>> >>> project-related websites, then we have a much bigger set of items to
>> >>> work on, not just MWiki.
>> >>
>> >> One thing at a time. The Forums were just adjusted. Extensions site is
>> >> much closer to correct than the MWiki.
>> >>
>> >> I see that I need to change the footer on www.openoffice.org. Done,
>> but
>> >> staged only. I don't want to publish if other AOO4 changes are pending.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Left Navigation:
>> >>>> (1) A link back to the main openoffice.apache.org.
>> >>>> (2) A link back to the main www.openoffice.org.
>> >>>> (3) "Main Page" is misleading and should be something like "Wiki
Home
>> >> Page".
>> >>
>> >> I think that additions here would help, but I am not a strong advocate.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Yeah, it would help to update the whole wiki, something we have been
>> > discussing from time to time here on the list. But until now nobody have
>> > volunteered to help make a new design.
>>
>> I volunteered to help when we did www.openoffice.org, but that was
>> before your time when there was no MWiki sysadmin. Are the MWiki templates
>> in the Apache Infrastructure SVN? If so, with a few pointers I can see what
>> it would take to make changes.
>>
>
> Only the Aoo template is in svn, because all others are standard installed
> from the release.
>
> All changes made on top of ver 1.25 are stored in
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/machines/vms/ooo-wiki2-vm.apache.org/x1/wiki
>
> This is the structure that infra uses for vm specific changes.
>
> Be aware that in order to "stage" changes, /x1/wiki exist on the vm, but
> the files need to copied to /x1/mwiki (live directory) before being active
> (documented in the runbook).
>
> I have also installed "wikitest.o.o", in order to be able to test upgrades
> safely. I used that for layout changes, in order not to interrupt the live
> system, before my changes actually worked.
>
> I am not working on ooo-wiki2-vm.a.o, so any changes you do will not
> conflict with other work.
>

Sorry for double posting, but I forgot an important issue.

Mwiki present itself in different languages automatically, so if you add
text, the easiest is to reuse texts that are already translated. Adding new
text with automatic translation is possible, but would of course require
translation.

rgds
jan I.


>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> >
>> > rgds
>> > jan I
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Footer:
>> >>>> (1) NO trademark attribution.
>> >>>> (2) The Apache Feather on the lower left is broken and goes to a
bad
>> >> place. - it must link to http://www.apache.org/
>> >>>> (3) Linked to About page needs an update -
>> >> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOOW:About
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Footer also says "Content is available under", which is incomplete.
 I
>> >>> assume something completed that sentence at one point.
>> >>
>> >> I think there was something about a license.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> I wonder whether it makes sense to just copy what we have from
>> >>> www.openoffice.org and use the same footer on MWiki as well, with
>> >>> links for:
>> >>>
>> >>> Copyright & License | Privacy | Contact Us | Donate | Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Or, if we need to add additional items, do so in a way that keeps the
>> >>> wiki and www.openoffice.org footers the same.
>> >>
>> >> I can agree with that. The admins may need to pull some css over as
>> well.
>> >>
>> >> Here is openoffice.org footer.html with the above change plus the
>> >> relevant css
>> >>
>> >> <div id="footera">
>> >>    <div id="poweredbya"><p><a href="http://www.apache.org/"><img
>> >> src="/images/feather-small.gif" alt="Apache Software
>> >> Foundation"/></p></a></div>
>> >>    <div id="copyrighta">
>> >>      <p style="text-align:center;">
>> >>        <a href="/license.html">Copyright &amp; License</a>
| <a
>> >> href="/privacy.html">Privacy</a> | <a href="/contact_us.html">Contact
>> >> Us</a> | <a href="
>> >> http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html#Paypal">Donate</a>
>> |
>> >> <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html">Thanks</a>
>> >>      </p>
>> >>      <p>
>> >>        Apache, the Apache feather logo, and OpenOffice are trademarks
>> of
>> >> The Apache Software Foundation.
>> >>        OpenOffice.org and the seagull logo are registered trademarks of
>> >> The Apache Software Foundation.
>> >>        Other names appearing on the site may be trademarks of their
>> >> respective owners.
>> >>      </p>
>> >>    </div>
>> >>  </div>
>> >>
>> >> Here is the related css
>> >>
>> >> #footera {
>> >>  margin: 20px 0px 0px 0px;
>> >>  padding: 8px 0px 12px 0px;
>> >>  border-top: 2px solid #ccc;
>> >>  color:#666;
>> >>  font-size: 8pt;
>> >>  padding: 0 8px;
>> >>  text-align: left;
>> >>  overflow: auto;
>> >>  clear: both;
>> >>  line-height: 10pt;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> #copyrighta {
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> #copyrighta p {
>> >>  padding-left: 20px;
>> >>  line-height: 10pt;
>> >>  padding-bottom: 5px;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> #copyrighta a {
>> >> color: #107EC0;
>> >> text-decoration:underline;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> #copyrighta a:hover {
>> >> background-color: #e6ebed;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> #poweredby {
>> >>  float: right;
>> >>  text-align: right;
>> >>  width: 210px;
>> >>  height: 100px;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> #asf-logo {
>> >>  width: 180px;
>> >>  padding-top: 20px;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> -Rob
>> >>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Dave
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