Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0473FE84F for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 01:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 95726 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jun 2013 01:01:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 95572 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jun 2013 01:01:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 95556 invoked by uid 99); 25 Jun 2013 01:01:19 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 01:01:19 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of joesch@j-m-schmidt.de designates 217.11.48.110 as permitted sender) Received: from [217.11.48.110] (HELO ngcobalt10.manitu.net) (217.11.48.110) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 01:01:13 +0000 Received: from Esprimo7935 (tmo-107-117.customers.d1-online.com [80.187.107.117]) (Authenticated sender: xjs01) by ngcobalt10.manitu.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CAB46E44823 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 03:00:53 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Schmidt?= To: References: <4155AA4B7F66454EA8BB03ACC0058830@Esprimo7935> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: commercial adaptations of AOO (was: My commercial service for OpenOffice.org) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 03:00:53 +0200 Message-ID: <581160ED62C2460C8B8B8FF77EF6E0F9@Esprimo7935> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac5xGervNa/32V3bQM+rrUaPca42CAAGyFyQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org > From: janI [mailto:jani@apache.org]=20 > I am pretty sure, you can find independent developers (like=20 > myself) who can > and will handle small orders (again like myself).=20 Yes, but it would be good to know in advance who is willing to perform = such work. I would not employ a programmer, just sometimes ask clients of mine = after minor adjustments of OpenOffice. > But making a general > statement is dangerous, since a lot depend on > a) what you expect for a few thousand euros In concrete terms, what I demand. "few thousand euros" here is only a = general description of the size of orders. I have no concrete idea what a free = C++ programmer with knowledge AOO, demands, possibly 50-80 euro per hour. = Too much? Too little? > b) if you expect a formal contract=20 Yes. (but as a freelance programmer on a contract basis or as a company, not = as an employee) > with prepayment bills=20 No, not necessarily, it depends on the particular individual agreement. > I would never say yes to in general to do developments, but=20 > with specific > details I might, and I am sure a lot of other independent C++=20 > developers > think in the same way. I'm afraid it does not make sense to use a general C++ programmers for = such small orders because of too long would need make himself familiar with AOO. > Please remember this is a list of volunteers (like with LO)=20 > so our prime > target is not to make money. Yes, that's Ok. But it is also not wrong to make money with free = software. I think each of us has to earn his living and I think it's better to do = that with things that we want to move forward, instead of doing other things. I myself was once a commercial clerk and had voluntarily supported only = in my free time OOo. About 6 years ago I started my own business to provide = professional services for OpenOffice. Nevertheless, I support Open Office also = continues to volunteer. Greetings, J=F6rg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org