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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites
Date Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:01:10 GMT
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Peter Junge <peter.junge@gmx.org> wrote:
> On 6/21/2013 9:59 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
>>
>>
>>>> What is the problem?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project.  It was not reviewed
>>> and approved for release by the project.  It is a 3rd party product.
>>> The website says it is from "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..":
>>
>>
>> No, this is absolutely *not* true!
>>
>> The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." is NOT the creator of the
>> PrOOo-box, but that's us (Detlef, Jan and I) three members of the
>> AOO-Community in Germany.
>>
>> You can see my entry here:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers
>>
>> and I can gladly Jan and Detlef ask to register there.
>>
>> The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the *only* one who pays us
>> the hosting of the Box (850 euros per year).
>>
>> *We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?*
>
>
> As far as I understand the Apache way: Apache products must be hosted by
> Apache infrastructure(*), but as the PrOOo-Box certainly contains also
> non-Apache products it cannot be hosted at Apache. Seems a Catch-22 to me.
> Does someone has any good idea how to fix this? It would certainly be a good
> thing to continue the PrOOo-Box within the AOO community.
>

Do you have a list of what non-Apache products are included?

There may be something possible here.

The AOO install sets, for example, include non-Apache components.  But
we had to carefully review them for license requirements, and document
these licenses and required notices, etc.  And this was all decided by
a public vote of the PMC.

So this may be possible.  But it must start with a proposal and
discussion on the dev list.  So it is good to start this discussion
now.

-Rob


> (*) Apache strictly requires to avoid community fragmentation like it had
> happened with OOo.
>
> Best regards
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>> But these are still 3rd party distributions.
>>
>>
>> No, this is the Box of german Members of the AOO-Community!
>>
>>
>> But that is not the problem, because the question is a Others, namely how
>> we can make local work on AOO when we can not even provide information users
>> need?
>>
>> A notice in a news-teaser is anyway only a temporary entry. What is the
>> problem?
>>
>>
>> Rob, you have, tell me here on the list, the following:
>>
>> * it's okay to get involved locally for AOO and Apache welcomes such
>> activities
>>
>> * I should self make a choice
>>
>>
>> However, I live in Germany, and here I know the OpenOffice users for more
>> than 8 years, and I know what users need for assistance.
>> And we all have to do something otherwise AOO lost in Germany. Sorry, but
>> that *is* the truth.
>>
>>
>>> So we are fair and we don't give special prominence to any single 3rd
>>> party distribution.
>>
>>
>> But that is *not* what is needed.
>>
>> There shall be *no* permanent link, but only a *temporary* news-teaser.
>> This teaser is automatically replaced by someone else, as soon as there are
>> new news.
>>
>> What is the problem?
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Jörg
>>
>>
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