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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Article on the Register
Date Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:27:40 GMT
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.mail@wtnet.de> wrote:

> Am 06/13/2013 09:36 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>
>  On 12.06.2013 22:06, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.mail@wtnet.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 06/12/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>
>>>>  On 12/06/2013 Andre Fischer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we have both? Some longer living, semi-'official' news and a
more
>>>>>> frequently changing list of recent blog posts. I find both important
>>>>>> and interesting. And having blog posts listed on the main page may
be
>>>>>> an incentive to more people writing new posts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adding "Blog" to the main navigation bar is surely helpful. For
>>>>> something more similar to what Andre asked for, I've just committed a
>>>>> test to
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/test/index.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/test/index.html>
>>>>> (if it gets published, no problem, it will still be in the test area).
>>>>>
>>>>> There you can see a block with the titles of the latest posts, good to
>>>>> show immediately what the blog topics are.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's right. One (maybe radical) idea comes into my mind:
>>>>
>>>> What if we stop the normal news (and the separate news webpage on
>>>> ".../news/index.html") and post everything in the blog? And write some
>>>> headline on the homepage?
>>>>
>>>>  I was thinking something similar. Shouldn't all new stories go onto
>>> the blog?
>>>
>>> And once we figure out how to update this live from the feed, I'd love
>>> to split the right side into three areas, one for the most recent blog
>>> posts, another for the most recent extensions and another for the most
>>> recent templates.
>>>
>>> So in a small space we can rotate headline from the blog, as well as
>>> templates, extensions, etc.
>>>
>>
>> I like your ideas (Andrea, Marcus, Rob) in general. But
>>
>> - I think the distinction between blogs and news can be a good thing if
>> we understand blogs more as personal opinions of individual community
>> members and news as 'official' announcements. If we mix blogs and news
>> then I see the danger that news will be swept out of view by the much
>> more frequently written blog posts.
>>
>
> I tend to see blog posts as news, too. Maybe with no official wording but
> more informal, but still news.
>

So far, I feel most of our "blogs" are news really or maybe mini- press
releases, so not much of a distinction in my mind.

I think integrating news and blogs is a good idea, and would save both us
and our readers trying to differentiate between these two points.. But, I
too would like SOME way of publishing "lead ins" to some reasonable number
of them to display in one side column. Off hand, I don't know how to do
that, and, yes, we would need to add more "bloggers".

Time to think more about these things and find examples of what we like --
both in terms of information and display.


> With a clear structure of categories and a clear "signature/disclaimer" at
> the end of the text it should be clear enough in which context the blog
> text is - personal or official or ...
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>  - Listing blog posts, extensions and templates will only work if we have
>> frequent updates of extensions and templates. I have to admit that I did
>> not follow those two in the past months. Is there enough traffic to talk
>> about?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Andre
>>
>>
>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>  We keep going to post news also on the homepage *and* get more blog
>>>> posts.
>>>>
>>>> Another thing:
>>>> Put the x recent headlines directly between nav bar and "I want to learn
>>>> more ...". Yes, that would put everything a bit lower, but we would
>>>> get rid
>>>> of the right side and the entire page will be much more smaller.
>>>> Better for
>>>> mobile devices. And the news are always on top.
>>>>
>>>>  So a single column?
>>>
>>> Another idea would be to introduce jQuery and implement one of the
>>> many sliders:
>>>
>>> http://vandelaydesign.com/**blog/tools/awesome-jquery-**sliders/<http://vandelaydesign.com/blog/tools/awesome-jquery-sliders/>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Unless there are objections, I plan to port it to the "real" homepage
>>>>> during the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me that would be fine.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>
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