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Am 05/09/2013 08:11 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
> <arielch@apache.org>  wrote:
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 12:34:25PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> I wonder if we can make this be more rational?
>>>
>>> For example, the About box currently says: "Copyright © 2012 Apache
>>> Software Foundation.
>>> All rights reserved."
>>>
>>> That needs to be changed to 2013, right?
>>
>> Yes, please open a bug before we forget, and set it as blocker.
>>
>
> OK
>
>>> It also says, "This product was created by Apache Software Foundation,
>>> based on Apache OpenOffice."
>>>
>>> That confuses me.  It probably confuses users as well.  Isn't this
>>> Apache OpenOffice?  Why are we saying "based on Apache OpenOffice" ?
>>> I wonder if we can simply remove that line altogether.
>>>
>>> (Also, the Splash Screen makes a similar odd statement: "Build
>>> contributed by member of the Apache OpenOffice community")
>>>
>>> Presumably these phrases came from earlier days when Sun or Oracle was
>>> credited as the "contributor" of the executable.   But I'm not sure
>>> the distinction is important any more.
>>
>> The string in the About Dialog has a place holder:
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/cui/source/dialogs/about.src?revision=1448713&view=markup#l76
>>
>> "Copyright © 2012 Apache Software Foundation.\nAll rights
>> reserved.\n\nThis product was created by %OOOVENDOR, based on Apache
>> OpenOffice.\nApache OpenOffice acknowledges all community members,
>> especially those mentioned at";
>>
>> %OOOVENDOR is replaced with the value of OOOVENDOR in
>> main/instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst or with a custom value set at
>> build time if configured with --with-vendor. For example,
>> --with-vendor="Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch\@apache.org)" turns out in
>> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png
>>
>> This all comes from Sun era
>> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog300.png
>> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog321.png
>>
>> It can still have some meaning: suppose someone in the ecosystem is
>> building custom versions of AOO for their customers, they may want to
>> configure with --with-vendor; they can even change the images in the
>> dialog to whatever suits them (anyone can try this by changing the PNGs
>> in the folder where the main executable file resides, about.png is the
>> header of the dialog, logo.png is the main logo at the left), for example:
>> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialogCustomImg.jpg
>>
>
> I can certainly see it being useful for someone else who builds a
> customized version of AOO.  But that's not us.  We're not *based on*
> Apache OpenOffice.  We *are* Apache OpenOffice.  This is confusing.
> Remember, we're trying to educate users to download safely, and use
> trusted downloads that continue Apache OpenOffice.  So saying that
> we're "based on" OpenOffice is weird.

I agree with you for this part of the sentence.

Marcus


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