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From janI <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Official survey service? (Was: Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo)
Date Fri, 19 Apr 2013 12:37:32 GMT
On 19 April 2013 13:48, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:39 AM, janI <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 19 April 2013 13:29, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:20 AM, janI <jani@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 18 April 2013 21:58, Andrea Pescetti <pescetti@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > janI wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On 18 April 2013 13:13, Rob Weir wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> If we want I can put a poll up on http://openofficesurvey.org.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>> Where would like survey.openoffice.org to point to ?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed, let's avoid using unofficial domains when we can redirect
> an
> > > > > official subdomain. Redirecting the DNS won't pose a big burden on
> > > Infra
> > > > > and just requires (lazy) consensus here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >   Andrea.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 23 hours, not bad for "month-long wrestling match with
> > > > Infra to get something like this set up" !!!
> > > >
> > > > The patch I made for dns is up and running. you can open "
> > > > survey.openoffice.org". BUT something is not working in the other
> end,
> > > > reply comes from hostmonster, with a possibilities to buy cars erc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > The DNS stuff had to happen first, and only then I can get it working
> on
> > my
> > > end.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > and yes I am a direct person, I like to tell people when they do
> > > something
> > > > good and visa versa, but I dont like assuming ill behaivour....but
> that
> > > is
> > > > just my way, and I am sorry if my direct way offended someone....but
> > look
> > > > infra got their part done, without wrestling.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I'm not assuming bad behavior.  I was just stating that I don't have
> the
> > > time to guess whether this is an occasion where we get a fast response
> > or a
> > > slow one.  The response time from Infra, IMHO, is entirely
> unpredictable.
> > > I have another DNS-related Infra request that are no more complicated
> and
> > > have waited almost a year.  It looks like we were fortunate this time.
> > >
> >
> > or we have a better connection now :-) think about the other infra things
> > that have happened lately (wiki, new translate, proxy setup), the ones I
> > know off have all had resonable response time
> >
> > I was not trying to shoot at you, I just have another impression of
> > infra...but of course, I am not neutral.
> >
> >
> > Our need to pick a logo design is very predictable and the time line for
> > > that must go forward.  So I was happy to move forward with this either
> > > way.  If I can avoid a dependency on Infra that is a good thing, not a
> > bad
> > > one.
> > >
> >
> > completely correct, but if the price is to have a non openoffice.orgsite,
> > it is at least a high price to pay.
> >
> > Using a non-openoffice.org site is a non-issue.  We've gathered user
> > opinions on Google Moderator and Facebook, without problems.  Other
> groups
> > in the ASF have used Google Docs-based surveys.   No one has ever raised
> > concerns about using 3rd party services for this.  This is not a "high
> > price to pay".
> >
>
> In any case, my practice remains -- and I'm sure most in Infra would agree
> with me here -- if you can do something without having a dependency on
> Apache Infra it is a good thing.  Let them focus on things that only they
> can do.  Self-service is a good thing.
>

No problem, everybody is entitled to have their opinion...I just try to
help.

You  wrote earlier "I have another DNS-related Infra request that are no
more complicated and
have waited almost a year"

I had a look in jira to find the issue, to see if I could solve it, but I
cannot find any open issues with you as requestor, and when I search for
DNS there are no really old issues.

If you give me the jira number I will have a look at it, and maybe ask why
it has waited so long.

rgds
Jan I.

>
> -Rob
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > @rob: can you please have a look at your end, you need problaly to
> add
> > it
> > > > as a vhost.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am not sure what the survey actually is, some kind of py/perl/js, I
> > can
> > > > get an idea, I can think about how we can move it to our own site.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > It is a PHP app, LimeSurvey.  Pre-reqs are listed here:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://manual.limesurvey.org/wiki/Installation#1._Make_sure_you_can_use_LimeSurvey_on_your_website
> > >
> >
> > thx for the link, I will have a look at it.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > >
> > > > rgds
> > > > Jan I.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > >
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