Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20FE3F5C5 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 50118 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2013 12:39:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 49868 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2013 12:39:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 49850 invoked by uid 99); 31 Mar 2013 12:39:50 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:39:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-lb0-f174.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username jani, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:39:50 +0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f174.google.com with SMTP id s10so1279475lbi.5 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 05:39:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.162.40 with SMTP id xx8mr4193683lbb.30.1364733588078; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 05:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.24.201 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 05:39:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51582449.2000101@mail.imacat.idv.tw> References: <5153DB7A.9030602@gmail.com> <5157DD06.7030001@mail.imacat.idv.tw> <51582449.2000101@mail.imacat.idv.tw> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:39:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible. From: janI To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01161d8ebb064004d937ccc9 --089e01161d8ebb064004d937ccc9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 31 March 2013 13:55, imacat wrote: > OK. I gained control to ooo-wiki2-vm now, with the help from Gavin > (gmcdonald). The system is updated, and ooo-wiki2-vm is scheduled to > reboot on 4/1 0:00am GMT+0, 12 hours from now. > Super, thanks !!! I left you a message on #asfinfra, about the raw devices (reboot, causes loss of raw devices), hopefully that was solved, otherwise mwiki will be down 12 hours from now. rgds Jan I. > > On 2013/03/31 17:24, janI said: > > On 31 March 2013 08:51, imacat > acat@mail.imacat.idv.tw > >> wrote: > > > >> Sorry I was not able to attend to this discussion in the past coup= le > >> of days. > >> > >> Yes, I have no access to ooo-wiki2 ever since. And no, I worked > >> with gmcdonald and danielsh for my ooo-wiki2 access on 2013/1/20 > >> 5:02am-7:36am GMT+0, but failed. For more than two hours all of us > >> cannot find anything that may deny my access. We had tried everything > >> we could think of. I'm looking at my IRC log now. Sorry I did not tr= y > >> again. I see no new possibility to solve my access problem, I had to > >> return to my paper, and I thought I can depend on janI for a short tim= e. > >> > > > > Thanks for trying to stay on the boat, you are a key person being full > part > > of both infra and aoo. > > > > You (and the community) can depend on me, I wanted (and want) to help > keep > > the servers running by trying to become part of infra, but it is no fu= n > > working in a project without the possibility of being part of the > project. > > I have not quit, but simply put infra work at a lower priority than my > l10n > > work. > > > > > >> I'm more than happy to keep the package updated on ooo-wiki2, as I > >> do now on ooo-forum and previously on ooo-wiki, once my ooo-wiki2 acce= ss > >> problem is solved. That does not take extra time. > >> > > > > The outstanding issues with our servers are documented in jira: > > INFRA-5767 > > INFRA-6070 > > INFRA-6071 > > > > and bugzilla also contains some open issues for mwiki. > > > > rgds > > jan I. > > > > > > On 2013/03/28 18:36, janI said: > >>> On 28 March 2013 06:56, J=C3=BCrgen Schmidt w= rote: > >>> > >>>> On 3/28/13 3:37 AM, janI wrote: > >>>>> Online again. > >>>> > >>>> thanks for taking care of it > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> somehow fs decided to go r/o, which caused mysql and pam to stop, > >>>> requiring > >>>>> the knife method for reboot. After reboot part of the config was lo= st > >>>> (raw > >>>>> devices), which I created again. > >>>>> > >>>>> Infra politely reminded me, that there are > >>>>> - 91 packages that can be updated > >>>>> and some security patches (no details listed in this mail) > >>>>> > >>>>> I thought some of the others took care of that, as they used to (I > have > >>>>> just heard that I am the only aoo with access, because the others > >> havent > >>>>> asked for it yet) ? > >>>>> > >>>>> If I am really the only one caring for our mwiki, I agree with rob= =E6=84=80 > >>>>> concern about a single person being a risk !! > >>>>> > >>>>> Any thought on how we can remedy this situation ? > >>>> > >>>> We can summarize/document the things that are most important to know > and > >>>> how typical problems have to be addressed. How to get notified and h= ow > >>>> start the necessary steps. > >>>> > >>> It is documented, more than it have ever been. > >>> - Ubuntu/ATS/httpd/mysql/mwiki maintenance is documented on the > >> respective > >>> sites > >>> - All our changes are documented in infra svn > >>> > >>> Searching for volunteers who are really committed and able to fix > >>>> problems. And who are interested to build the necessary minimal > skills. > >>>> > >>> Define the communication plan in case of any problems, who start > working > >>>> on it etc to avoid duplicate work. > >>>> > >>> > >>> The same for other critical services. I know it is not easy to find > >>>> enough people to cover it completely but it should be our goal to > staff > >>>> a small (but working) team of volunteers. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Keeping in mind that a working infra structure with important runnin= g > >>>> services is important and keeping it running is a very important and > >>>> valuable contribution to the project. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I totally agree on that point, which is why I have been active daily > for > >> 4 > >>> month on #asfinfra helping with different issues (more non AOO than > >> AOO), I > >>> thought I had earned some merit, but it seems I lack some skills to b= e > >> part > >>> of that project. > >>> > >>> I understand from the comment, that the point I tried to make was not > >>> direct enough, so let me make it clear. > >>> > >>> At the moment there are 5 AOO committers (if I count correctly) who a= re > >>> also Infra committers and passive online more or less daily on > #asfinfra > >> (2 > >>> online last night and a third logged on during the incident). > >>> > >>> A couple of weeks ago, #asfinfra started using a ranking system (my > word > >>> for it). Infra committers had a + added to their nick (was given > voice), > >>> when I asked on the list why, I got the following answer: > >>> "Today there are 80 people online, we want to be able to see > regulars" > >>> > >>> I am not infra, it seems I lack some skills and I dont like being > second > >>> rank (while doing a lot of work), so that was the day I decided to st= ay > >> off > >>> the channel, if being online and active daily for months is not > "regular" > >>> then it is not a place for me. > >>> > >>> The nagios alert woke me up last night, and it took me small 3 hours = to > >> get > >>> it back online (with the help of gmcdonald), and I asked myself why d= o > >> this > >>> when I am seen as a non regular second rank person. > >>> > >>> So please consider this my notice from mwiki. > >>> > >>> I will not spent time providing a service level in a project which I = am > >> not > >>> considered part of, I will leave that to those who are part of > infra/AOO > >>> and concentrate my programming work here in AOO where my work at leas= t > is > >>> being seen essential. > >>> > >>> jan I. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Juergen > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> rgds > >>>>> jan I. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 28 March 2013 02:13, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> ah spoke too soon, it was the cache talking > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 3/27/13, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >>>>>>> I am able to access it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 3/27/13, janI wrote: > >>>>>>>> hi. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I just got an alert that wiki is down (1 night in spain), and it > >> seems > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> have a severe problem, prohibiting me from doing sudo and > restoring > >>>> it. > >>>>>>>> The > >>>>>>>> people at infra-root who have backdoor access is not available o= n > >> irc > >>>> at > >>>>>>>> the moment, so I hope they will notice during the next hours. I > need > >>>>>> them > >>>>>>>> to reboot, because a lot of services simply stopped running (inc= l. > >> pam > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> mysql). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I will check on the situation in the morning (about 8 hours from > >> now). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> rgds > >>>>>>>> jan I. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado > >>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor > >>>>>>> http://es.openoffice.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Alexandro Colorado > >>>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor > >>>>>> http://es.openoffice.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------= - > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> imacat ^_*' > >> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc > >> > >> <> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ > >> Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ > >> Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ > >> OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ > >> EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ > >> Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ > >> > >> > > > > > -- > Best regards, > imacat ^_*' > PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc > > <> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ > Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ > Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ > OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ > EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ > Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ > > --089e01161d8ebb064004d937ccc9--